James Toney is OLD, FAT and SHOT

[Steak]

They did it to prove a point. In a street fight, a 47 year old can help you more with Wrestling than even the best of boxers with their striking.

thats baloney. what matters in a street fight is who has the gun or knife or any weapon, and if you dont have any then whoever gets the first shot to the balls wins. I hate it when people believe that MMA=street fighting, when its obviously not true.

and do I have to remind you again that Toney was WAY more past his prime than Couture anyway?

Boxer vs MMA will always have that result. Always. The distance is different and boxers don't like kicks in the legs... Prime Pacquiao would be wasted too.

This is baloney too. Kicking actually has a lot of flaws, and they leave you really off balance and open to punches. Im not just bull****ting, Ive seen it a few times before, and have tried it out myself. not only that, but kicking leaves you more open to be taken down.
Kicking can be a dangerous weapon, but it has some bad weaknesses too.

Grappling is the true decider in mma. thats why wrestling and BJJ are the predominant deciders in the sport: if you dont have experience in it, then you cant dictate how the fight will play out.

[Fightfan82]

Not as old and shot as couture was. couture is 47 years old and has 10 losses.

And he still man handled Toney like a child.

[BillyBoxing]

honestly, I thought this was common sense, but some of you are under the delusion that he is actually still good in some way. heres a sad fact: hes not even close.

-James Toney has not had a good 'win' since he was robbed against Sam Peter...4 years ago.
-James Toney has gotten a questionable decision over journeyman Danny Betchelder and obviously lost against Fres Oquendo in his most recent relevant fight.
-His last fight(almost a year ago) he looked terrible agaisnt a bum
-His prime was about 16+ years ago, and 50+ lbs ago
-He is going into a much different sport with only a few months of training in it, when in his own sport HE ISNT EVEN TOP 50 ANYMORE.
-Anyone else notice in recent pictures that Toney's eyes are a little yellow? I have. In case you didnt know, thats a condition called jaundice, which is a liver problem...very often caused by consistant heavy drinking. not something you often see in 'active athletes', eh?
-Prime James Toney was great to see. But he is at his WORST right now, physically and in terms of skill.
-Honestly, I dont need to even bring up these facts, because anyone who has seen his recent training footage 'highlights' can see hes terrible now. Not even his boxing looks very good anymore.

Anyone thinking that he is even a shell of his former self needs a wakeup call, and right away.

Think about it: Toney is not even televised in his own sport anymore, thats how low hes fallen. and yet he just jumped up to the co-main event against a 47 year old on an important card?

Great job being duped, and buying into the BS hype. You bit the bait.

Couture is older and shotter than Toney.
But he's fit.

This fight was a joke nothing new...

What's the point bro??
Even in his prime Toney get beat.
He wasn't in his sport.End of.

[Steak]

Not as old and shot as couture was. couture is 47 years old and has 10 losses.

And he still man handled Toney like a child.

Couture was still competing with top 10 ranked opponents like Lesnar and Nogueira in MMA...hes much like Hopkins, who despite his age, is still relevant in MMA because of his outstanding work ethic and smarts.

Toney hasnt even come close to beating a top 10 opponent in his own sport in 4 years now, and didnt deserve wins against Danny Betchelder(presently rated #175 in boxing) and obviously lost to Fres Oquendo(who just sucks).

Did you even read my opening post? geez.
And, incidently, I made this thread about a week before the fight, so its not an 'excuse' thread.