Comments Thread For: Not Pound for Pound…Champ for Champ 2010

[The Big Dunn]

The Punisher over Margarito all day!!Didn't think Baldo could beat Jab though,but I believe Jab wouldn't beat the Punisher or Margarito either!!As a matter of fact I don't think Jab would have even beaten Quintana himself!!Make tread with poll options & find out!!Baldomir & Jab were not better than Cotto,the Punisher or Margarito,I believe that fully!!

I respect your opinion as I do reeds. But just "I think" isn't enough. Take Baldo out of the picture, when Pwill and Marg fought better comp they lost. This at least should be enough to make us revisit who is the best.

[THE REED]

let me guess what your going to do? what the **** is that? You've already condemned me and I haven't said a damn thing yet! Look this is your site and you can do as you please but don't pull this **** where you shoot the messenger without hearing my message 1st.

These were both huge upsets to most people so maybe you saw something others didn't. In beating Zab and Gatti, Baldo had something tangible to determine if he was the best at that time. The other guys didn't have it.

Because that is what you've been doing for the last 3 pages.

Trying to prove to me that Baldomir was a better fighter.

But you can't.

It's not something on paper, or his resume, or who he beat.

It doesn't matter what you say, you aren't going to disuade me from thinking Paul Williams wouldn't tax the **** out of Baldomir in 2006, competition or not.

I'd take Cotto and Margarito over him as well.

[Bushbaby]

I respect your opinion as I do reeds. But just "I think" isn't enough. Take Baldo out of the picture, when Pwill and Marg fought better comp they lost. This at least should be enough to make us revisit who is the best.

Margarito lost to the Punisher & Mosley!!The Punisher & Mosley beat Judah & Baldomir!!The Punisher lost to Quintana,who was decapitated in the rematch.Quintana beats Baldomir on his best night who beat Judah!!Having the lineal title doesn't mean U are the best period!!Make no mistake,the Punisher can easily beat the best fighters at 147 right now,but they are both ranked above him.Cotto does everything better than Baldomir & has already crippled Judah in their fight!!I respect Ur oppinion as well!!

[The Big Dunn]

Because that is what you've been doing for the last 3 pages.

Trying to prove to me that Baldomir was a better fighter.

But you can't.

It's not something on paper, or his resume, or who he beat.

It doesn't matter what you say, you aren't going to disuade me from thinking Paul Williams wouldn't tax the **** out of Baldomir in 2006, competition or not.

I'd take Cotto and Margarito over him as well.

I'm not trying to prove Baldo is better as much as I am questioning why wins and losses don't factor so high in your opinion. I want to know how you arrive at this opinion. I'm not questioning the destination, I'm asking about the journey to get there.

In this debate, I have at least offered something tangible, something that can be questioned but not disputed. We have agreed the lineal title doesn't make you the best. But beating the best usually does. While Zab may not have been the best inod at 147, he was closer than anyone the 3 men you mentioned were. Quite frankly Gatti was too. Using this logic, Baldo makes a case fopr being better at 147 in 06.

[The Big Dunn]

I'm not trying to prove Baldo is better as much as I am questioning why wins and losses don't factor so high in your opinion. I want to know how you arrive at this opinion. I'm not questioning the destination, I'm asking about the journey to get there.

In this debate, I have at least offered something tangible, something that can be questioned but not disputed. We have agreed the lineal title doesn't make you the best. But beating the best usually does. While Zab may not have been the best inod at 147, he was closer than anyone the 3 men you mentioned were. Quite frankly Gatti was too. Using this logic, Baldo makes a case fopr being better at 147 in 06.

It should read closer than any opponent the 3 you mentioned beat sorry about that!

[street bully]

Being recognized as the champ of a division really does not mean that you are the best in the division. People should really look at fighters and their styles, and what they are capable of before one reaches a decision.

That said I like the concept of champ for champ, but if its about who is the best of belt holders then Pacquiao should be there, since he is the WBO champ like Bradley is the WBO champ.

Anyways anone who thinks that Baldomire was better than Williams, Cotto, and Margarito in 2006 is kidding themselves, since he had the luck of being put in with one of the least stable and exploitable linear, and unified champions in boxing history.

[THE REED]

I'm not trying to prove Baldo is better as much as I am questioning why wins and losses don't factor so high in your opinion. I want to know how you arrive at this opinion. I'm not questioning the destination, I'm asking about the journey to get there.

In this debate, I have at least offered something tangible, something that can be questioned but not disputed. We have agreed the lineal title doesn't make you the best. But beating the best usually does. While Zab may not have been the best inod at 147, he was closer than anyone the 3 men you mentioned were. Quite frankly Gatti was too. Using this logic, Baldo makes a case fopr being better at 147 in 06.

I'm not going to continue to go in circles with you.

I don't want to talk about it anymore.

I've told you everything I could tell you.. if you disagree... leave it at that.

I'm not going another 6 ****in pages about this ****.

I made a simple comment, and you continue your persistence to prove what I THINK to be wrong.

Give it up.

[THE REED]

Being recognized as the champ of a division really does not mean that you are the best in the division. People should really look at fighters and their styles, and what they are capable of before one reaches a decision.

That said I like the concept of champ for champ, but if its about who is the best of belt holders then Pacquiao should be there, since he is the WBO champ like Bradley is the WBO champ.

Anyways anone who thinks that Baldomire was better than Williams, Cotto, and Margarito in 2006 is kidding themselves, since he had the luck of being put in with one of the least stable and exploitable linear, and unified champions in boxing history.

This **** is a wrap.

[King Koopa]

Being recognized as the champ of a division really does not mean that you are the best in the division. People should really look at fighters and their styles, and what they are capable of before one reaches a decision.

That said I like the concept of champ for champ, but if its about who is the best of belt holders then Pacquiao should be there, since he is the WBO champ like Bradley is the WBO champ.

Anyways anone who thinks that Baldomire was better than Williams, Cotto, and Margarito in 2006 is kidding themselves, since he had the luck of being put in with one of the least stable and exploitable linear, and unified champions in boxing history.

Then what does that make Cory Spinks?

[street bully]

Then what does that make Cory Spinks?

Corry Spinks was never a great fighter either, he was a pretty good defensive fighter, but he was cut from the smae cloth as Judah, had more heart, but an even worse chin then Judah and that says something.

The last fighter I said was the best in the WW division before Floyd won the ring belt was Vernon Forrest.