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  • Roger Yomama
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    #51
    Originally posted by Freedom Fighter
    Get your facts straight. Vitali is OLDER than Briggs.

    Vitali is age 39

    Briggs is age 38

    If you watched Vitali's old fights with all the early KOs, you'd realize Vitali is past his prime too. The version of Vitali that fought Hide in 1999 would have taken Sosnowski out in 2 rounds. But that being said, Vitali is still very good.
    Lewis was older than Tyson and Holyfield but he still gets **** for beating on old men. Why should Vitali get a pass?

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    • jrosales13
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      #52
      Ok Vitaly first impressed me when he came back and fought Peters and Arreola 2 top 10 guys.

      Kevin Johnson was not in the top 10 but I thought it was still an OK fight due to Vitaly activity.

      However, Vitaly fighting Sosnowski and now Briggs is bullshit.... There are better fighters out there.

      This shit is just as bad as Adamek fighting Grant and Haye fighting Harrison.

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      • Dave Rado
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        #53
        Originally posted by Roger Yomama
        Lewis was older than Tyson and Holyfield but he still gets **** for beating on old men. Why should Vitali get a pass?
        Actually it was only after Lewis had beaten Tyson that he finally cracked The Ring's P4P rankings. No one criticised him for taking those fights at the time, because Holyfield was The Ring's #2 ranked Heavyweight when Lewis beat him, and Tyson was The Ring's #2 ranked contender when Lewis beat him.

        It's ridiculous to compare either of those fights with Briggs today. Briggs hasn't been a top 10 fighter since 2006.


        (As for FF's point, which you were replying to, that Briggs is younger than Vitali, that's so obviously irrelevant I don't believe he really said that! Vitali is still as close to his prime as Lewis was when he retired, and would be the odds on favourite to easily beat any top 10 fighter other than his brother. Briggs hasn't been a top 10 fighter for four years, and is no longer a top 50 fighter according to boxrec. Different fighters age differently and age is not in itself any indication of how close someone is to their prime. I don't believe that FF is really so ignorant as to be unaware of that fact)
        Last edited by Dave Rado; 08-17-2010, 09:25 PM.

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        • Hitman932
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          #54
          Originally posted by jrosales13

          This shit is just as bad as Adamek fighting Grant and Haye fighting Harrison.
          I'm not gonna argue that Briggs is a great choice of opponent but he would KTFO of Audley Harrison in less than 90 seconds.

          So it might be a bad choice of opponent, but nowhere near as big a joke as fighting Audley Harrison.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Hitman932
            I'm not gonna argue that Briggs is a great choice of opponent but he would KTFO of Audley Harrison in less than 90 seconds.

            So it might be a bad choice of opponent, but nowhere near as big a joke as fighting Audley Harrison.
            Fighting Sownowski and Briggs back-to-back is just as big a joke as Haye fighting Harrison.

            It is all a bullshit fight. Plain and simple.

            No credit.

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            • Hitman932
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              #56
              Maybe those of you criticizing Vitali for taking this fight should look over the WBC top-15:

              Ray Austin - Complete joke, laid down against Wlad for the paycheck, no reason to pay him again

              Odlanier Solis - Fat ass bum didn't even want the fight

              Nicolai Valuev - Turned down a career high payday

              Denis Boytsov - Has expressed 0 interest in a title fight

              Tomasz Adamek - Currently scheduled to fight someone else

              Derek Rossy - LOL... seriously.. is he better than Briggs?

              Johnathon Banks - Doesn't take the sport seriously, got fat, is he better than Briggs?

              Alexander Povetkin - Giant ***** does not even want to fight for a title

              Chris Arreola - Already beat him

              Juan Carlos Gomez - Already beat him

              Tony Thompson - Would be a boring fight, he can't crack an egg

              Albert Sosnowski - Already beat him

              Alexander Dimitrenko - Got his ass kicked by midget Eddie Chambers, stands no chance vs Vitali. Soft as baby ****.


              So who the hell is he supposed to fight off that list that is more attractive or poses more of a challenge than Shannon Briggs.

              I swear some of you guys don't have a damn clue about how the sport works.

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              • Hitman932
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                #57
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                Fighting Sownowski and Briggs back-to-back is just as big a joke as Haye fighting Harrison.

                It is all a bullshit fight. Plain and simple.

                No credit.

                I don't give a **** if you give him credit or not.

                Vitali has to fight somebody ranked by the WBC and every guy he went after turned him down.

                You do understand he can't fight someone who is not ranked don't you?

                Do you honestly prefer to see Vitali fight Derek Rossy or Ray Austin?

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                • Dave Rado
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Hitman932
                  I'm not gonna argue that Briggs is a great choice of opponent but he would KTFO of Audley Harrison in less than 90 seconds.

                  So it might be a bad choice of opponent, but nowhere near as big a joke as fighting Audley Harrison.
                  Audley-Briggs would be a pick 'em fight. Briggs would be in a race against time to get the KO before he gassed - and Audley has a pretty decent knock-out punch himself, although his opponent has to be fairly stationary for him to be able to land it.

                  Plus Audley is ranked a lot higher than Briggs, because he recently beat a top 50 fighter (albeit barely top 50), whereas Briggs hasn't done that since 2007.

                  In any case, it's ridiculous to hold a borderline ATG like Vitali to the same standards as a laughing stock like Haye.
                  Last edited by Dave Rado; 08-17-2010, 09:14 PM.

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                  • BostonGuy
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                    #59
                    The problem I have with Vitali fighting Briggs, is that Shannon's done jack *****e to earn a title shot. He fought absolute bums. My fear is that he's just there for the paycheck and will not push himself in training camp.

                    Also, I think Vitali could've waited until after the Adamek-Grant fight to see if Tomas would fight him....

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Hitman932
                      Maybe those of you criticizing Vitali for taking this fight should look over the WBC top-15:

                      Ray Austin - Complete joke, laid down against Wlad for the paycheck, no reason to pay him again

                      Odlanier Solis - Fat ass bum didn't even want the fight

                      Nicolai Valuev - Turned down a career high payday

                      Denis Boytsov - Has expressed 0 interest in a title fight

                      Tomasz Adamek - Currently scheduled to fight someone else

                      Derek Rossy - LOL... seriously.. is he better than Briggs?

                      Johnathon Banks - Doesn't take the sport seriously, got fat, is he better than Briggs?

                      Alexander Povetkin - Giant ***** does not even want to fight for a title

                      Chris Arreola - Already beat him

                      Juan Carlos Gomez - Already beat him

                      Tony Thompson - Would be a boring fight, he can't crack an egg

                      Albert Sosnowski - Already beat him

                      Alexander Dimitrenko - Got his ass kicked by midget Eddie Chambers, stands no chance vs Vitali. Soft as baby ****.


                      So who the hell is he supposed to fight off that list that is more attractive or poses more of a challenge than Shannon Briggs.

                      I swear some of you guys don't have a damn clue about how the sport works.
                      Quality post.

                      Dave Rado really DOESN'T understand how the sport works. Vitali has to choose from among the people ranked by the WBC or unify with Haye (who is afraid of him). He called out Haye, and tried to make a fight with Valuev and Solis.

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