Why Bernard won, and why Bernard is still the best

[DCReprezenta]

Slipx, You are the biggest nut-hugger I've ever seen. Like I said either you have to be blind to say Hopkins won or an asslicker like yourself. Hopkins didn't even win a round in the first 9 rounds. A few of the first 9 rounds could've been a draw at best. Hopkins won the last 3 rounds. Taylor won atleast 7 rounds. Hopkins is a dirty fighter, he was getting away with holding hitting, He was a ***** for the first 9 rounds, running around the ring like a little *****. Taylor was cut in lost alot of blood, that is the #1 reason Taylor ran out of gas. Hopkins didn't have the ball to brawl with a fresh Taylor in first half of the fight. Like I said if Hopkins brawls with Taylor in the rematch, Hopkins will get knocked out silly.

dude, never watch boxin again in ya life and get off dat dope

[SnoopySmurf]

Sorry a draw is still a nut-hugger. You sure sound like an Hopkins fan.

Do you really believe that Hopkins lost the 12 round? Are the judges nuthuggers too? Coz it was a pretty close fight at the end of the night. Taylor owned the first half but Bernard took the second but with dominance.

[DCReprezenta]

Do you really believe that Hopkins lost the 12 round? Are the judges nuthuggers too? Coz it was a pretty close fight at the end of the night. Taylor owned the first half but Bernard took the second but with dominance.

i ont even think taylor owned any part of da fight.....i mean if u watch it u'll see taylor will throw 5 missin wild punches and bernard would sit back and tag him wit a solid right hand, dat was da story of da first half.......i ont see where taylor "dominated" da fight

[Parodius]

dude, never watch boxin again in ya life and get off dat dope

Go check your eyes, I think you need some eye glasses. I think you should stay away from the crack. You actually think Hopkins won. So your the crackhead, not me.

[Bombardier]

Hopkins will not brawl in the first half of the fight coz he knows he's 40 yrs old. That would be unwise and every veteran fighter knows this. And brawling is Hopin's domain, IMO. Boxing is Jermain's. However, Hopkins can box too. He'll figure out his opponent. Let them get comfy with their combos after a few rounds. Then BAM! Hopkins steals the show.

And as for Taylor losing a lot of blood, okay, he wasn't bleeding profusely. Not enough to make him tired. He was tired coz he got punch drunk by Hopkins' right fist. Now, remember, I still score the fight for Taylor. But Hopkins did turn on the heat and even the score cards say the same. How Hopkins lost the last round, I just don't see it.

Should have been a draw, IMO. That's they way I saw it.

Okay, so you're saying that a guy who's getting quite old, who's never been a power puncher, who prefers to win on points and only wins by KO/TKO when he completely overwhelms an opponent, is going to spot the other guy 8-9 rounds before going to work? That a guy who's never planned on getting the late KO/TKO win before is going to suddenly decide, at this late stage of his career, to change his gameplan and forget about points? Sorry, I'm not buying it.

[SnoopySmurf]

i ont even think taylor owned any part of da fight.....i mean if u watch it u'll see taylor will throw 5 missin wild punches and bernard would sit back and tag him wit a solid right hand, dat was da story of da first half.......i ont see where taylor "dominated" da fight

He did land a few telling punches on Bernard but only because Hopkins rolls with the punches and look worse than they actually do. Hopkins had no damage on him - at all. Except sweat. Judges will be swayed by aggression and Hopkins wasn't that aggressive like Taylor. He bopped Taylor a few times but Taylor kept the pressure on. I'm only saying this to explain the scoring. But the 2nd half was like the storm after the calm of the first half. Bernard clearly dominated the young man.

[DCReprezenta]

Go check your eyes, I think you need some eye glasses. I think you should stay away from the crack. You actually think Hopkins won. So your the crackhead, not me.

honestly dude, watch da fight again next saturday...observe how many times hopkins countered taylor knockin him off balanced, observe how many wingin shots taylor missed and flailed across da ring....for goodness sake taylor missed a punch and fell to da ground in 1 of da rounds, HAHAHA..............how is dis fight even close let alone dominated by taylor?.....i could argue dat hopkins won 8 ****in rounds

[SnoopySmurf]

Okay, so you're saying that a guy who's getting quite old, who's never been a power puncher, who prefers to win on points and only wind by KO/TKO when he completely overwhelms an opponent, is going to spot the other guy 8-9 rounds before going to work? That a guy who's never planned on getting the late KO/TKO win before is going to suddenly decide, at this late stage of his career, to change his gameplan and forget about points? Sorry, I'm not buying it.

Hopkins fought this way with Oscar. He did this with Eastman. But Eastman was so inaccurate, that he couldn't even win the rounds where Bernard was just sitting back waiting to counter. And Hopkins spotting 8-9 rounds is from your POV. I saw it as 6-6.

[scap]

Hopkins won the fight hands down. Roy knew it & Kellerman knew it & they had the balls to go against the grain with their take on the fight. Stewart even knew it because of all the crap he talked before the fight & he looked very sheepish in his segment post fight.

Bernard could have gotten knocked out in 10 seconds and Roy would have still said he won the fight, when Roy is the commentator in a fight where he has beaten one of the participants you can throw just about everything Roy says out the window...

Roy can turn a guy like Richard Hall into Muhammad Ali.

Hopkins could have easily won that fight but HANDS DOWN...that is probably a stretch...he respected Jermain early and often and it cost him in the end, the remtach will be a lot of fun.

[Bombardier]

Hopkins fought this way with Oscar. He did this with Eastman. But Eastman was so inaccurate, that he couldn't even win the rounds where Bernard was just sitting back waiting to counter. And Hopkins spotting 8-9 rounds is from your POV. I saw it as 6-6.

I don't know, fact is this was a close fight and you could see it any number of ways and I understand where you're coming from. Don't you think at least that Taylor gave Hopkins a lot more trouble than either of those guys and made it a lot harer for Hopkins to turn things around? If he held him back for a round or two more than what Hopkins was planning on then that would be enough to make the difference.