Andre Berto vs Joshua Clottey

[THE REED]

You're swaying away from the original matter of debate, which is that Clottey would beat Berto (IMO) and Berto would beat Clottey (iyo).

You're swayin away from logic.

Prime Urango one weight class up and shot to living **** Corrales 3 weight classes up = the same thing.

[SplitSecond]

you know what, i change my mind, **** this thread

[street bully]

You're swayin away from logic.

Prime Urango one weight class up and shot to living **** Corrales 3 weight classes up = the same thing.

If you want to dedicate this discussion to about how both did against blown up fighters be my guest. Bottom line is Clottey has shown more against credible opponents.

You can substitute Corrales with Zab Judah if you want, who is actually a credible opponent. Unless you think Urango is more of a test than Judah at 147.

I'm actually being sensible here, giving OPINIONS stating they are nothing more. Opinions not facts. You ont he other hand are stating opinions and claiming they are facts, which they are not.

Such as berto, Collazo would "easily" outpoint Clottey.

[THE REED]

If you want to dedicate this discussion to about how both did against blown up fighters be my guest. Bottom line is Clottey has shown more against credible opponents.

You can substitute Corrales with Zab Judah if you want, who is actually a credible opponent. Unless you think Urango is more of a test than Judah at 147.

So welterweight Corrales and Zab Judah can substitute for each other now?

I rest my case.

[Dick Buffman]

This is like a 1910 45 round slugfest in an outdoor ring with 115 degree weather.

[El 7 Mares V.2]

I already said I will never watch another Clottey fight ever again, and probably won't if this fight gets made but in reality it wouldn't be such a bad fight. At least Berto wouldn't be able to grab and hold like he always does since Clottey doesn't throw ****. BTW I read Clottey said he wanted to fight at 154 lbs so I don't know.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Berto would beat Clottey IMO.

7-5 Type of fight.

[#1Assassin]

clottey will never beat a world class oponent, he doesnt have it in him to fight through any kind of adversity at all. he just quits every time, even when things are going his way he quits like against cotto. the guy really has no heart at all, and even if he did berto is just a much better overall fighter. berto wins a wide decision.

[street bully]

clottey will never beat a world class oponent, he doesnt have it in him to fight through any kind of adversity at all. he just quits every time, even when things are going his way he quits like against cotto. the guy really has no heart at all, and even if he did berto is just a much better overall fighter. berto wins a wide decision.

Berto a better overall fighter in what department then. Please tell me?

Berto has never fought a world class oponent, and shouldn't even be called elite.

[street bully]

So welterweight Corrales and Zab Judah can substitute for each other now?

I rest my case.

What case? That the less talented Berto would win based on heart alone that isn't prooven on the top level?