Has there been another fighter in history...

[77Ritchie77]

manny did transform suddenly. right before he fought david diaz he began his 5 fight transformation. five fights of epo, which is almost undetectable, and hes on top of the boxing world.
there has never been a fighter like that.
manny was sparring with guys like israel vasquez going toe to toe and now hes walking down cotto and clottey.
hes sort of like the barry bonds of boxing.

[sweetpea87]

Wow what a great an original thread. It's not like this exact same thread has been posted here everyday for the past 8 months or anything.

[Vito Corleone]

First of.

Pacquaio never had an Amatuer career. You know the same type of career that floyd has lost a few times. Also did you know donaire beat jame kirkland in the amatuers.

Floyd was KTFO'd by bums?

[Deep Blue 1997]

Who started off ordinary and then all of a sudden become extroadanary like Manny Pacquiao? I don't seem to be able to remember anyone who started off an ordinary fighter and then all of a sudden became extroadanary like Pacquiao has done. There have been fighters who had losses early in their career and went on to become very good. The only fighter I know is Cristian Mijares for example lost 3 times early in his career to 3 guys with a combined record of 2 wins, 7 losses and 2 draws. But this was totally different because he was like 16 years old and 2 of the losses were in 4 round bouts. And while Mijares was ranked in the p4p lists at one time and looked impressive, He didnt look invincible like Pacquiao. You could see his vulnerability.

Wheras with Pacquiao he won his first 18 bouts, Became champion but he was still an relatively ordinary fighter. He was of course knocked out by Medgoen Singsurat when he was champion, Outboxed by Erik Morales even though his opponent was clearly declining. Yes Morales only had 2 losses to Barrera but he didnt look the same fighter as he was a few years before. The fights with Barrera took alot out of him. Pacquiao also looked terrible in the 1st Marquez fight aside from the 1st round, but then after that. Something dramatic happened, He moved up several weight divisions and now looks like the terminator!

Has there been anyone else who started off ordinary and then became extroadanary out of nowhere? Please post if you can remember anyone...

come on bro, you say stuff like this

then go around and say Manny fought drained, past it opponents in Cotto, De La Hoya, Hatton, etc.

Manny's always been pretty good,

a bit over rated?.. i honestly believe so.

without a doubt he has improved a lot.

but his success has relied heavily in Roach's matchmaking skills.

[JK1700]

come on bro, you say stuff like this

then go around and say Manny fought drained, past it opponents in Cotto, De La Hoya, Hatton, etc.

Manny's always been pretty good,

a bit over rated?.. i honestly believe so.

without a doubt he has improved a lot.

but his success has relied heavily in Roach's matchmaking skills.

No doubt. His career has been helped tremendously by Roach's excellent match-making skills. It's no secret that Hatton, Cotto and Oscar were damaged fighters when Pacquiao beat them. But still, Pacquiao has became extroadanary out of nowhere. Even if Cotto was damaged, His style and power should have gave Pacquiao problems but Pacquiao just walked right through him. This is extremely unusual to me, Because just a few year's ago Manny was being beaten around the ring by Morales and Marquez. Neither of which punch half as hard as Cotto.

[HandSpeed303]

Floyd was KTFO'd by bums?

That is a ****** question...Based on the fact he didn't say that.

[JK1700]

People are getting away from the original question...

Has there been another fighter who went from ordinary to extroadanary like Pacquiao has? I still can't think of anyone.

[HandSpeed303]

No doubt. His career has been helped tremendously by Roach's excellent match-making skills. It's no secret that Hatton, Cotto and Oscar were damaged fighters when Pacquiao beat them. But still, Pacquiao has became extroadanary out of nowhere. Even if Cotto was damaged, His style and power should have gave Pacquiao problems but Pacquiao just walked right through him. This is extremely unusual to me, Because just a few year's ago Manny was being beaten around the ring by Morales and Marquez. Neither of which punch half as hard as Cotto.

Man why don't you stop beating around the bush and just say you believe he is on something...For **** sake!!!!

Just read wrote you just wrote...Just take a second and read it. It is not hard to tell where you are coming from.

[JK1700]

Man why don't you stop beating around the bush and just say you believe he is on something...For **** sake!!!!

Just read wrote you just wrote...Just take a second and read it. It is not hard to tell where you are coming from.

Just answer the question...

[HandSpeed303]

People are getting away from the original question...

Has there been another fighter who went from ordinary to extroadanary like Pacquiao has? I still can't think of anyone.

People ahve given you plenty of examples, but you don't really care...Do you? YOu should really just let this topic die already. Really, you should.