Has there been another fighter in history...

[JK1700]

Who started off ordinary and then all of a sudden become extroadanary like Manny Pacquiao? I don't seem to be able to remember anyone who started off an ordinary fighter and then all of a sudden became extroadanary like Pacquiao has done. There have been fighters who had losses early in their career and went on to become very good. The only fighter I know is Cristian Mijares for example lost 3 times early in his career to 3 guys with a combined record of 2 wins, 7 losses and 2 draws. But this was totally different because he was like 16 years old and 2 of the losses were in 4 round bouts. And while Mijares was ranked in the p4p lists at one time and looked impressive, He didnt look invincible like Pacquiao. You could see his vulnerability.

Wheras with Pacquiao he won his first 18 bouts, Became champion but he was still an relatively ordinary fighter. He was of course knocked out by Medgoen Singsurat when he was champion, Outboxed by Erik Morales even though his opponent was clearly declining. Yes Morales only had 2 losses to Barrera but he didnt look the same fighter as he was a few years before. The fights with Barrera took alot out of him. Pacquiao also looked terrible in the 1st Marquez fight aside from the 1st round, but then after that. Something dramatic happened, He moved up several weight divisions and now looks like the terminator!

Has there been anyone else who started off ordinary and then became extroadanary out of nowhere? Please post if you can remember anyone...

[Gorilla Dogs]

Who started off ordinary and then all of a sudden become extroadanary like Manny Pacquiao? I don't seem to be able to remember anyone who started off an ordinary fighter and then all of a sudden became extroadanary like Pacquiao has done. There have been fighters who had losses early in their career and went on to become very good. The only fighter I know is Cristian Mijares for example lost 3 times early in his career to 3 guys with a combined record of 2 wins, 7 losses and 2 draws but this was totally different because the was like 16 years old and 2 of the losses were in 4 round bouts. And while Mijares was ranked in the p4p lists at one time and looked impressive, He didnt look invincible like Pacquiao. You could see his vulnerability.

Wheras with Pacquiao he won his first 18 bouts, Became champion but he was still an relatively ordinary fighter. He was of course knocked out by Medgoen Singsurat when he was champion, Outboxed by Erik Morales even though his opponent was clearly declining. Yes Morales only had 2 losses to Barrera but he didnt look the same fighter as he was a few years before. The fights with Barrera took alot out of him. Pacquiao also looked terrible in the 1st Marquez fight aside from the 1st round, but then after that. Something dramatic happened, He moved up several weight divisions and now looks like the terminator.

Has there been anyone else who started off ordinary and then became extroadanary out of nowhere? Please post if you can remember anyone...

[Mersey]

Marvin Hagler.

[Thread Stealer]

Henry Armstrong and Ezzard Charles's careers didn't start out that great.

[Gorilla Dogs]

B-Hop started his career with a loss



So refer back to my first post

[JK1700]

B-Hop started his career with a loss



So refer back to my first post

But that was a 4 round fight and it was still a MD.

[MurderDeathKill]

Pac didn't transform suddenly. He improved over time just like most fighters who are pros for a long time. People forget Pac was already a champion before he became a big star. He's lucky that he lost to Morales just a few fights after he rose to national prominence. he needed that loss to remind him he wasn't invincible. He learned from it and has gone on to accomplish great things. It didn't happen immediately.

[Gorilla Dogs]

But that was a 4 round fight and it was still a MD.

a loss is a loss son

[JK1700]

Marvin Hagler.

Both Hagler's early "losses" came in the other guy's backyard.

So there was suspiscious whether he actually lost. You can't really call that ordinary.

Ordinary = Getting KO'd by bums

[Mersey]

Both Hagler's early "losses" came in the other guy's backyard.

So there was suspiscious whether he actually lost. You can't really call that ordinary.

Ordinary = Getting KO'd by bums

Marvin fucking Hagler