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  • #81
    Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
    Exactly. And what's telling is that while he would can these guys after two or three fights, he has nothing but the HIGHEST praise for Floyd Sr and worked with him a whopping five years. Food for thought.
    Floyd Sr is a talented trainer in one respect, if the fighter happens to already be athletically gifted/inclined, such as a Dawson or Guzman, Floyd Sr can then hone and enhance those attributes and bring them to the forefront, however; he isn't an X's and O's type of coach. Oscar to me looked more complete under Emmanuel Steward.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Clayton Bigsby View Post
      because oscar is very honest. hypersensitive? isnt that you defending any idiotic thing floyd does.

      there's a reason why floyd sr. is not in ibhof as a trainer or fighter. he has not trained a fighter into prominence.

      funny how you quote oscar a habitual liar who was most likely quoted after oscar was fishing for excuses after he lost to floyd just like every time he loses & cans his trainers & who was also training pacquiao who oscar fought & is his promotional firm's rival.

      as a trainer;

      roach>>>>>>>>>>sr.










      You post about Mayweather a lot more than I do. I would say at least 10 times more. For every one of my post about Mayweather, you post 10 of them. So that makes you the hyper sensitive one. The bottom line is you can't refute anything I said. So you use the " you always defend Floyd line" which is not only untrue but a sorry response that proves nothing. I quoted what Delahoya said. Those were not my words. But yet you responded in a defensive way. That's what is truly funny. Which proves my point lol. Hyper sensitive. And really the only people that matter are the ones that actually worked with both. That leaves you out.
      Last edited by Calilloyd; 07-06-2010, 10:05 PM.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by switchsouthpaw View Post
        Floyd Sr is a talented trainer in one respect, if the fighter happens to already be athletically gifted/inclined, such as a Dawson or Guzman, Floyd Sr can then hone and enhance those attributes and bring them to the forefront, however; he isn't an X's and O's type of coach. Oscar to me looked more complete under Emmanuel Steward.
        The first part of your post is pure conjecture and a little silly - especially since Floyd Sr taught Floyd Jr how to box .

        Second, you're saying he looked more complete with Manny? You mean the 12 rounds he went with old ass Hector Camacho or the two he went with David Kamau?

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        • #84
          Originally posted by Big Smoke View Post
          Well then why are these people saying that it would just be easy for Floyd to get with his dad?

          Floyd doesn't have the same chemistry with his dad that he has with Roger.
          Maybe floyd jr. got turned of with his father's being unprofessional. Much as i dislike floyd jr., i believe he's a true boxer in the sense that he trains seriously and expects his coach to have the same work ethic.

          I don't know them personally though, so i'm just postulating here.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
            He really can't help himself.
            It's CALLED PROMOTING!!!

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            • #86
              Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
              But, that has to do more with chemistry than anything. Oscar probably like Sr style of training and was more comfortable with him than with Roach. While another fighter would probably like working with Roach more than Sr, while other fighters would probably like working more with Joe Goosen, Nacho, and Steward more than Roach and Sr.

              It has to do a lot with chemistry also...
              That may be true but I'm only going by what he said.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by fdotorres View Post
                lol now that pacquiao supposedly agreed to every demand, then floyd suddenly remembers than his uncle has a trial coming up and he won't take the fight? lol i hope this **** isn't true

                oh well... let the ducking begin
                Keep in mind this is Arum making a sympathetic observation on Floyds behalf. (Crazy I know.) Only thing we have heard directly from the Mayweather camp is they were not negotiating right now. So lets not jump to conclusions and wait to see what happens after we hear from all parties involved. Then we can blame , praise or whatever.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                  You said Oscar was a finished product. And I pointed out to you several things, that's all. You can acknowledge it or continue to with your dogged ignorance. The notion that you need to take a fighter from unknown into prominence in order to be a great trainer is just ******. How many fighters stick with one guy that long? And, with all due respect, Oscar was more singer than he was boxer when Floyd Sr joined the fray. While he was still a mega star, he had looked less than stellar in the ring and had been usurped by the likes of Felix Trinidad by the time Floyd Sr rolled around. It's no coincidence that his return to the grand stage came when Floyd Sr instructed him prior to round 10 of his bout against Fernando Vargas to run the combinations up the middle and finish with the hook. "Duh duh duh duh." We laughed at his words for months, man. But Oscar it led to the dramatic TKO and he and Floyd Sr never looked back. In fact, if Oscar hadn't decided to fight Floyd Jr, they would probably still be together.
                  The underlined above seems to only work in one direction though, because Mayweather supporters will sound the trumpets with respect to his fight (beating) with Oscar, even if many others discount it like myself based primarily on your own assessment, which is correctly stated above.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by jbpanama View Post
                    It's CALLED PROMOTING!!!
                    I really wouldn't consider what Arum is doing right now as promoting.

                    I would call it more as annoying than anything else.

                    But, hey that is just me.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                      The first part of your post is pure conjecture and a little silly - especially since Floyd Sr taught Floyd Jr how to box .

                      Second, you're saying he looked more complete with Manny? You mean the 12 rounds he went with old ass Hector Camacho or the two he went with David Kamau?




                      Oscar: "Manny didn't teach me nothing." I'll also add that sr had Oscar using his right hand more than any of his other trainers.

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