Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Likes The Idea of a Cotto Revenge Rematch

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • GRUSTLER
    Undisputed champion
    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
    • Dec 2008
    • 14118
    • 444
    • 115
    • 20,934

    #131
    Why does Pacquiao need another catchweight for Cotto?
    Clottey was and is bigger than Cotto and he fought him
    straight up at 147. If Cotto is smart, he would only agree
    to fight Pacquiao at 154 or no fight. Seems to me that
    Bob Arum likes to throw Cotto to the wolves.

    Comment

    • jri9d0
      Undisputed Champion
      Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
      • May 2009
      • 5107
      • 190
      • 0
      • 12,323

      #132
      Originally posted by GRUSTLER
      Why does Pacquiao need another catchweight for Cotto?
      Clottey was and is bigger than Cotto and he fought him
      straight up at 147. If Cotto is smart, he would only agree
      to fight Pacquiao at 154 or no fight. Seems to me that
      Bob Arum likes to throw Cotto to the wolves.
      I think that's become more evident now that Cotto has his promotional company and his starting to get really close to Oscar, a nemesis to Arum.

      Comment

      • AssasinKing
        UNITED
        Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
        • Mar 2009
        • 5968
        • 169
        • 116
        • 13,253

        #133
        Originally posted by North Star
        Why the need for a catchweight? I really don't get why team Pac is trying to gain another advantage when they won the first fight.
        If anything Cotto has the advantage here...

        Comment

        • nathan31
          Contender
          Silver Champion - 100-500 posts
          • Aug 2009
          • 106
          • 5
          • 0
          • 6,206

          #134
          another trick by pacquiaos team that is not a real champ p4p when you call yourself p4p champ you face your oponent in their weight devision not in catchweight that shows tha pacquiao is afraid to fight cotto at the limit weith division witch in this case is 154.he faught every one else at their weight why not fight cotto at his weight 154??? he admited that cottos power was hurting him he just pretended it dint hurt so cotto wouldent take over i belive that if this remacth happens cotto now has a good coner not like the first fight that he was in there parcticly by hismself. ill be a intresting rematch to see what emanuel stuward and cotto can do know with better training and better game plan and if the old cotto like in forman fight shows up i belive he has a good chance against pacquiao.

          Comment

          • Buckfever
            Undisputed Champion
            Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
            • May 2006
            • 1742
            • 24
            • 8
            • 10,197

            #135
            I can understand the rationale. He has one fight left, an eighth division enhances his legacy, Cotto is a big draw and he'll be able to demand a bigger cut than compared to fighting Mayweather.

            Might not be a popular fight for true boxing fans, but the economics probably are better than anything else out there except Mayweather.

            Comment

            • Mr.Smith
              Contender
              Silver Champion - 100-500 posts
              • Dec 2007
              • 407
              • 20
              • 5
              • 6,502

              #136
              Originally posted by doninlouisiana
              If Floyd does not sign this fight even though his negotiating team has approved everything, then look for Manny to move on with HBO, and at the same time HBO will blackball Mayweather just like they have done with the Klitschkos.

              Then he can take his broke ass back to whatever ****** he grew up in, or Fort Leavenworth where he will do time for tax evasion.
              HBO blackball Mayweather? That's like telling your best hoe not to go make you any money. Dude please...

              Comment

              • Mr.Smith
                Contender
                Silver Champion - 100-500 posts
                • Dec 2007
                • 407
                • 20
                • 5
                • 6,502

                #137
                Originally posted by Buckfever
                I can understand the rationale. He has one fight left, an eighth division enhances his legacy, Cotto is a big draw and he'll be able to demand a bigger cut than compared to fighting Mayweather.

                Might not be a popular fight for true boxing fans, but the economics probably are better than anything else out there except Mayweather.
                This **** was set up months ago as an option. One manny didnt want to face Yuri. Yuri is not powerful but a decent boxer that probably would have gave Manny fits with all the movement he does. So Bob insert Cotto probably the only true fighter in the game right now. Cotto beats Yuri and that sets up Pacquiao for his 8 division title. Man I was telling my friends about this and they didnt believe it would happen. The only reason Margachito is in the talks is so that people dont see what a scum bag Arum is for setting Cotto up.

                Comment

                • Buckfever
                  Undisputed Champion
                  Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                  • May 2006
                  • 1742
                  • 24
                  • 8
                  • 10,197

                  #138
                  Originally posted by Mr.Smith
                  This **** was set up months ago as an option. One manny didnt want to face Yuri. Yuri is not powerful but a decent boxer that probably would have gave Manny fits with all the movement he does. So Bob insert Cotto probably the only true fighter in the game right now. Cotto beats Yuri and that sets up Pacquiao for his 8 division title. Man I was telling my friends about this and they didnt believe it would happen. The only reason Margachito is in the talks is so that people dont see what a scum bag Arum is for setting Cotto up.
                  I agree with you, actually I think I remember you posting up about it. And I agree that Arum is a scumbag, but given his relationship with Floyd, he probably realized that making that fight was challenging. So it was a good business move and I'm sure taht Cotto realized that the 154 belt was a good point of leverage. I mean he was shot prior to Yuri and now he can demand another big payday. It's boxing but it's big business first.

                  Comment

                  • fabie
                    Undisputed Champion
                    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                    • May 2009
                    • 1498
                    • 246
                    • 180
                    • 10,255

                    #139
                    What is appalling is hearing why you guys complain of CATCHWEIGHT fights. This has been going on for a long time. CATCHWEIGHTS are mutual agreements within the range of the weight level.

                    For one thing Manny Pacquiao has to do many things just to maintain his weight level and that meant it isn't his natural weight. When we went up 7 weight divisions, his weight is being "forced" to go up with it in his natural walking weight but it isn't natural.

                    Perfect example is his regiments and training that he needs to eat 5 meals a day just to hold the weight. His height and weight isn't a natural and there's nothing for him to concquer below the welterweight division.

                    His height and weight is already being "pushed" to the max to balance between strength and speed while "operating" comfortably. His accomplishments and while being the champion is a natural attraction and the much sought fighter around.

                    When he is no longer as potent or as a champion, obviously nobody would want to fight him. Can we all discount or rob him of this opportunity? Of course not.

                    While he and his team is calling forth for a catchweight fight, again, it is a MUTUAL AGREEMENT. The opponent doesn't have to agree to fight him. Not only it is perfectly legal but a norm to be able to "balance" any kind of advantage based on height and weight. (and reach).

                    Comment

                    • Mr.Smith
                      Contender
                      Silver Champion - 100-500 posts
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 407
                      • 20
                      • 5
                      • 6,502

                      #140
                      Originally posted by Buckfever
                      I agree with you, actually I think I remember you posting up about it. And I agree that Arum is a scumbag, but given his relationship with Floyd, he probably realized that making that fight was challenging. So it was a good business move and I'm sure that Cotto realized that the 154 belt was a good point of leverage. I mean he was shot prior to Yuri and now he can demand another big payday. It's boxing but it's big business first.
                      People talk **** about doing business with Floyd. The Pac fight is the only one I've seen really have problems and he bent his demands with the 14 day window instead of up to fight. Everything Pac's team wanted they got. Floyd only asked for the OST and even moved the dates. Some people act like Floyd put the OST later in the contract. Arum knew it when he brought the the contract to Pac's team the first time. They didnt like it and so we know what took place. We are all trying to figure things out but, in truth team Mayweather, Pac and Cotto all been talking about this **** months ago. We are playin checkers and those ****s are playing chess. As far as people not seeing this **** for what it really is. Why is it that Pac wouldnt fight Yuri because he was too tall but, would fight Margarito? It wasnt height it was style...

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP