Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Likes The Idea of a Cotto Revenge Rematch

[Buckfever]

I don't know how much difference the catchweight made, but 2 points, Cotto looked comparatively huge against Yuri compared to how he looked coming in against Manny. Secondly, there's strong evidence that he's much less durable closer to 140 than at 147 so a couple of lbs could have made a difference. That said it's hard to see him ever winning a decision against Manny and Manny could easily stay away and likely win a decision. At 154 he'd have to walk him down and catch him, a punchers chance would be the fight at 154 IMO.

Still it will sell. Easy to market.

[Franco2012]

If it make money sense,it makes all the sense in the world.

BOB ARUM MAKE IT HAPPEN

and 8 division champion MANNNNNNNNNNNNY PACQUIAOOOOOOOOOOOO

[MJ406]

Why the need for a catchweight? I really don't get why team Pac is trying to gain another advantage when they won the first fight.

yeah that's what I don't get. if people criticise Pac for beating a weight drained Cotto they're called haters

yet I have yet to see someone defend Pacquaio with a legit reason to why the only WW he fought with a catchweight was Cotto.

**no catch weight used for DLH or Clottey ... I wonder why that is?

2+2=9 (you)

If pac cant make 147 then why hold his oppponent with cuffs to not make the regular scheduled weight limit? I need a real valid answer from you.

that's my gripe with it. if Pac wants to weigh in at 143 fine by me, but how can he get away with this catchweight BS? Cotto shouldn't be such a push over .. Clottey didn't fight Pacquiao with a catchweight, nor did Oscar

I'd criticize manny here but you people are over-reacting.. its not like they announced that this is official... LAME....... Im sleeping..

well over reacting or not, still to hear Pacquiao and discussions of another catchweight fight aren't very encouraging.

and for all yall haters, jr welterweight is 148 to 154, anything in between is fair game

someone already said this, and I suggest you look it up. Weight classes are defined by a max weight limit. so while any weight above 147 and up to 154 is a legit weight for JMW

strictly limiting the weight to 150 or 151 isn't allowing the fighters to wight up to the original max weight limit set by Junior Middle which is 154

** we had these weight discussions last time, for the Cotto-Pacquiao 145 catchweight fight, and smart asses tried to argue that 141-147= Welterweight but that isn't entirely correct because

Henry Armstrong won a Welterweight title and didn't weight in that suggested
141-147 weight range

and more importantly, if you look up (oppose to make up) the actual definition of Welterweight, ... or any weight division

they are defined by what the maximum weight allowed in that respective division

**141 has nothing to do with the definition of Welterweight. I know its an old argument, but its just frustrating how un boxing knowledgeable some boxing fans can be

grab a dictionary and look up these terms. you won't find anything about 141-147

or 148-154

I think that most posters are riled up simply because there is a catchweight, regardless of the actual weight itself.

Catch-weight fight's rate slightly above exhibition matches IMO.

If a catch-weight actually needs to be in place in order for the fight to exist..... then technically, the fight should probably not happen IMO.

1. Well I have reasons for being riled up besides the fight just being at catchweight, but anyway. before Cotto-Pac ESPN ran an article on catch weight fights through the years, and reading the fights most of them sounded utterly pointless

Trinidad jumping up to 170 and fighting Jones Jr. & Forbes fighting DLH are two particular pointless fights that come to mind.

And if you aren't fighting a guy at his best, then what's the point really?

2. I tend to agree on catch weights being more of exhibitions. And regarding the need for them ... how many times are catchweights actually needed?

because in MMA, whenever a fighter in the UFC fails to make weight they call the bout a catchweight bout

yet boxing it can be specifically put into a contract. So I really question how much its needed in the sport of boxing, as Pacquaio has only fought Cotto with it (is the catchweight something he only brings out when fighting Cotto or something?)

my other issue with catch weight is Freddy Roach running his mouth pre fight about "We'd beat Cotto at any weight"

then post fight in an article talk about how the lower weight was used to drain Cotto

effin pathetic, and very cowardly about admitting they used the Catch weight to not fight an opponent at 100%

cotto would lose with or without it though, unless proven wrong, i suppose.

if this second catchweight fight goes through with Pac vs Cotto how can you prove Manny would win anyway .. I don't get that kind of logic

since he hasn't fought Cotto outside of a catchweight. Why act like Manny would beat him regardless

**and despite what fans like to think on the issue, about weigh ins not making a big deal

in the case of Cotto of Cotto fighting Pacquiao it seems a concern, as he's the only opponent team Pacquiao used a catchweight to fight

[Mr.Smith]

I don't know how much difference the catchweight made, but 2 points, Cotto looked comparatively huge against Yuri compared to how he looked coming in against Manny. Secondly, there's strong evidence that he's much less durable closer to 140 than at 147 so a couple of lbs could have made a difference. That said it's hard to see him ever winning a decision against Manny and Manny could easily stay away and likely win a decision. At 154 he'd have to walk him down and catch him, a punchers chance would be the fight at 154 IMO.

Still it will sell. Easy to market.

Buck, they won't fight at 154. Trust me! Maybe 150-152. I don't think all this catch weight **** is Pac's doing it's Roach. Roach wouldn't even fight Mosely at 142! I dont think Mosely could have made 142 anyway.

[Sugar Q]

Buck, they won't fight at 154. Trust me! Maybe 150-152. I don't think all this catch weight **** is Pac's doing it's Roach. Roach wouldn't even fight Mosely at 142! I dont think Mosely could have made 142 anyway.

The thing is Roach works for Manny not the other way around. Manny can insist on fighting Cotto @154. Weight doesn't win fights skills do. Manny is not innocent here.

[Laborer]

WOW a catchweight at 150.

or at 148. nowadays pac gets what he wants, including votes for his political aspiration. i mean, congressman pac makes as much sense as a beauty queen fixing a car!

[jetgeomcx]

Why does Pacquiao need another catchweight for Cotto?
Clottey was and is bigger than Cotto and he fought him
straight up at 147. If Cotto is smart, he would only agree
to fight Pacquiao at 154 or no fight. Seems to me that
Bob Arum likes to throw Cotto to the wolves.

easy there, grust.
it was silly konzc who said that...he didn't even imply that manny wants a catchwt.
pac should be ashamed to fyt at any catchweight now.
and i don't think cotto will be gullible this time around....

[jetgeomcx]

This **** was set up months ago as an option. One manny didnt want to face Yuri. Yuri is not powerful but a decent boxer that probably would have gave Manny fits with all the movement he does. So Bob insert Cotto probably the only true fighter in the game right now. Cotto beats Yuri and that sets up Pacquiao for his 8 division title. Man I was telling my friends about this and they didnt believe it would happen. The only reason Margachito is in the talks is so that people dont see what a scum bag Arum is for setting Cotto up.

team pac didn't want yuri primarily because of the big discrepancy in height and reach.
with cotto, it will be just the weight.
but then, pac should fyt cotto at the super welter limit.
pac will be at ~149 during fytnyt......as always.
cotto is more sluggish at 154, could be 162 at fytnyt.
....and so he myt opt to come lighter.

[jetgeomcx]

The thing is Roach works for Manny not the other way around. Manny can insist on fighting Cotto @154. Weight doesn't win fights skills do. Manny is not innocent here.

rytly so.
but then why not go with your trainer if you can go away with it.
and it's mutual agreement between the 2 protagonists...as long as there is no more cheating in the end.

i would say...pac should fyt at no catchwt now....then pac-cotto at 154 will be a very good fyt. i believe cotto will be at the advantage to really hurt manny with his punches...and with a better corner.

[Williamb45]

not interested



even if there was no catchweight, still not interested...noone wants to see this that ****

the only thing that interests me is pac winning
a title in his 8th division. But if they fight at a catchweight then fack this fight and fack pac and his team. I'd be rooting for cotto if they pulled this ****.