Who Exactley Did Roy Jones Jr Duck??????

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  • JUYJUY
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    #61
    Roy Jones says that Jorge Castro was his toughest fight, his toughest opponent. And guys like Eubank were a class above Castro.

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    • +Chris+
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      #62
      This topic has been beat to death, e****ially by Larry Merchant. Someone who has never stepped in the ring a day in his life....

      I wouldn't say Roy ducked any fighter. He beat who was put in front of him, you can't fault him for that. If you ever though Roy was going overseas to fight anyone, your a dam fool. After what happened in '88, would you go overseas to fight?

      Insert your favorite boxer that Roy ducked here ______, and prove your case on how and why Roy ducked him...*Smh*

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      • !! Mr. Soprano
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        #63
        Didn't Roy 'Duck' Chicken?

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        • JUYJUY
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          #64
          Originally posted by +Chris+

          Insert your favorite boxer that Roy ducked here ______, and prove your case on how and why Roy ducked him...*Smh*
          Do you want me to copy and paste what I've already wrote in this thread? FFS look back over the last few pages.

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          • Knicksman20
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            #65
            James Toney & Bernard Hopkins are better fighters than any of the Euro fighters mentioned. They're both HOF's & would beat Eubanks, Benn, Collins, & whoever else was mentioned. Jones dominated Hopkins & Toney.

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            • JUYJUY
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              #66
              Originally posted by Knicksman20
              James Toney & Bernard Hopkins are better fighters than any of the Euro fighters mentioned. They're both HOF's & would beat Eubanks, Benn, Collins, & whoever else was mentioned. Jones dominated Hopkins & Toney.
              They wouldn't stand much chance against Benn or Eubank on the nights they fought Jones, Hopkins was unknown at the time and Toney was in no fit state to fight that night.
              Last edited by JUYJUY; 07-08-2005, 12:36 PM.

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                #67
                Originally posted by JUYJUY
                They wouldn't stand much chance against Benn or Eubank on the nights they fought Jones, Hopkins was unknown at the time and Toney was in no fit state to fight that night.
                Even if Toney didn't have the weight issue before the Joes fight I see a similar outcome in that fight. Toney is a counter puncher & would like it if someone would try to take the fight to him so he can pick them apart.

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                • JUYJUY
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Knicksman20
                  Even if Toney didn't have the weight issue before the Joes fight I see a similar outcome in that fight. Toney is a counter puncher & would like it if someone would try to take the fight to him so he can pick them apart.
                  I'm not so sure about that, Jones beat the Toney that lost the title but I can see the Toney that won the title really getting to Jones.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by JUYJUY
                    Nice post

                    People always say that Collins lacked boxing skills, but you have to respect his record. In 11 years of professional boxing, fighting at a very high level, he only ever lost three fights and you only have to watch those three fights to see that he showed better than his opponent in each loss. McCallum quickly let it be known that no ammount of money would entice him back into a ring with Collins again! This was 1989 or 1990, and McCallum knew that Collins suffered stage fright at first until finally leaving the nerves behind and putting McCallum through hell towards the end. Those controversial losses to Reggie Johnson and Sumbu Kalambay in 1992 were a disgrace to boxing, anybody with a grain of sense and a grain of vision could see that Collins clearly won those fights. But that was the last time he would have to put a 'L' in the bracket.

                    Collins trained alongside Marvin Hagler at the Petronelli Gym in the 1980's, he fought in Boston a lot for the first 5-6 years of his career and fought for the WBA 160 title twice as well as fighting for the European title against former WBA 160 champ Kalambay. He won all of his other fights convincingly. That guy Collins was as tough as nails and just got the job done. Respect.

                    Freddie Roach, to this day, still says that Collins would of beaten Jones, Collins had awesome work-rate and a rock-solid chin, he had an ugly style but it was so effective, he could sap your energy with his body blows and also had his fair share of hard head punching ability to get you out of there too. Freddie says that if you go on common opponents, Collins had the edge over Jones. When he Freddie was fed up of people saying that Jones would beat Collins because he beat McCallum and Johnson while Collins lost to them, Freddie said "A Pre-Prime Collins only narrowly lost to a Prime McCallum and a Prime Johnson in the early 90's at 160. A Prime Jones only narrowly defeated a Post-Prime McCallum and a Post-Prime Johnson in the late 90's at 175. So what would of happened had Collins and Jones fought in the mid 90's at 168?"
                    Collins deserves alot of credit,he was dragging himself to the ring on Benn and Eubank undercards getting no attention at all,then he eventually got his big chance against Eubank and took it.I admit that Eubank held back when he had Collins hurt and the judging was abit dodgy,but Collins deserved abit of luck after the disgrace decisions against him earlier in his career.









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                      #70
                      The 'old' Collins was just a boxer really, he was kind of a boxer-puncher, but he notably switched into an all-out slugger for Eubank. He was hypnotised into believing that he was invincible before the Eubank fight, he needed motivation from somewhere because he didn't truly think he could beat Eubank so he got himself hypnotised. It was Eubank's first ever loss and while the whole fight was abit of a fluke, you have to give credit to Stevie, the whole of Britain celebrated because Eubank was so detested and despised by all. After knocking Eubank off his perch, Collins became the most popular Irishman in Britain! Now THAT Collins was a world-beater, a marauding warrior who didn't lose for the rest of his career, the rest of his career was World title defences where he just battered down his opponents and called out Roy Jones.

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