Floyd Mayweather Sr...sued for voicing his opinion???

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  • ThunderWolf
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    #41
    Originally posted by PrinceCharlez
    Since when did voicing your opinion become a crime? I thought this was America, land of the freedom and liberty? what happened to that? They asked Floyd Sr what he tought about Manny and he spoke his mind, PERIOD...
    He said this numerous times IN PUBLIC and common sense would tell you that there is a public scandal and a malicious intent.

    Originally posted by PrinceCharlez
    Manny still went on to win FOTD and numerous awards, he is still rated P4P and hasnt had any titles stripped. His fan base is still the same and he is still in the run for the biggest payday of his life. So when did these "opinions" damage Mannys character?
    Yes. And all these could have been bigger.

    Originally posted by PrinceCharlez
    Manny is the only athlete in any sport who can refuse a blood test,...
    Correction, the only athlete who can refuse an UNOFFICIAL blood test.

    Originally posted by PrinceCharlez
    ...sue people that suspect him of cheating and still be considered clean...
    Yes, because clearly, illegal substances were never found in ANY official drug tests conducted since he was born.

    Originally posted by PrinceCharlez
    ANy body that goes through the trouble and jump through loops of fire is hidding something...
    Stoopid people think badly. There is clearly two sides to every story which your prejudiced mind refuse to even see.

    Originally posted by PrinceCharlez
    And its only a matter of time before his dirty draws are shown to the world. If he was indeed juicing and has agreed to test which means he will be clean (system should be clean since he has waited so long to agree to terms) he is in a world of TROUBLE.....in the words of FLoyd Sr...BAD NEWS!!!! BAD NEWS GOT CHA BOY!
    And a matter of time when all tests including random blood tests will prove Pac to be clean and knockout PBF as usual, therefore validating all claims of libel.

    If your opinion is popular, then Pacman could not have won Fighter of the Decade, and P4P no1 by popular demand.

    Therefore you are a fool by popular demand.
    Last edited by ThunderWolf; 07-03-2010, 09:01 AM.

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    • FeFist
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      #42
      Pacquiao won't win the court case so it doesn't really matter. If Floyd sr published records proving that Pacquiao was on drugs that later turned out to be false, he would be liable for libel.

      As things stand, his words are more likely to be viewed as an opinion not a false statement of fact.

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      • Warbeast
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        #43
        we are protected by laws.

        and when you say something that you can't back up, you're screwed.

        and you will pay like anyone else who does the same mistake.

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        • 17scenes
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          #44
          Originally posted by Warbeast
          we are protected by laws.

          and when you say something that you can't back up, you're screwed.

          and you will pay like anyone else who does the same mistake.

          Untrue.

          You do not understand the laws you speak of.

          There is no law that says you have to be able to back up your opinion with facts.

          There is however a law that says that if you make public statements that you know are false in order to damage someone economically or socially, then you are in trouble.

          Since Sr cant know for a fact that Pac is NOT using PEDs (even Pac doesnt know wether he ever took any or not), he can say its his opinion based on his boxing knowledge that Pac is on some ****.

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          • damned1974
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            #45
            Originally posted by Ryannn
            floyd mayweather sr. is a name in boxing, like it or not.

            if he speaks, people will listen (atleast the ******ed ones)

            his so called "opinion" is very damaging, and considering the fact that his basis on it is manny wiping the floor with someone he trains, its pretty pathetic.
            So lets be honest...has Floyd sr's opinion really harmed Manny's reputation?

            If you believe so, then keep in mind that Manny has won his election,received awards-fotd, been on TIME magazine, etc and hasn't had a loss of opponents or finances in his boxing career since Floyd sr has expressed this opinion.

            I am unsure where Mayweather's opinion has truly damaged Manny in ANY way, shape or form....it will be tough to prove that his opinion has even harmed Manny....a lot of doubts happened when Manny refused randomized testing... people didn't just listen to Floyd SR-they watched and listened to Manny's proven lies and excuses and his resistance to randomized testing...he made himself subject to su****ion.

            Remember,people pay more attention to Manny-not Floyd sr...sometimes that attention isn't always going to work in his favour...
            Last edited by damned1974; 07-03-2010, 09:38 AM.

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            • PrinceCharlez
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              #46
              Originally posted by Boy Nympho
              The world needs freedom of speech and beliefs indeed.

              That is why I support the works of the Ku Klux Klan. In my opinion, they are making this earth a more beautiful, presentable place...
              Hey I support Freedom too, and if u trying to be funny then i'll be funny with u. I support the KKK myself and believe that if the want to practice ******ity then they should take the sheets off they head and show themselves since they feel so FREE. That way we know which one to take a free head shot at...

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              • AFighter4U
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                #47
                Originally posted by 17scenes
                Untrue.

                You do not understand the laws you speak of.

                There is no law that says you have to be able to back up your opinion with facts.

                There is however a law that says that if you make public statements that you know are false in order to damage someone economically or socially, then you are in trouble.

                Since Sr cant know for a fact that Pac is NOT using PEDs (even Pac doesnt know wether he ever took any or not), he can say its his opinion based on his boxing knowledge that Pac is on some ****.
                There are numerous cases where people filed ******, ****** cases actually won. I'm not a lawyer, nor do i know if this applies to pacman, but i think winning a case like this depends on who has the crazier/better lawyer.

                But that's just my opinion.

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                • HandSpeed303
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by PrinceCharlez
                  Since when did voicing your opinion become a crime? I thought this was America, land of the freedom and liberty? what happened to that? They asked Floyd Sr what he tought about Manny and he spoke his mind, PERIOD. He felt that a man moving up from 135 to 147 in 6 months was impossible and keeping your speed, increasing power, while being lean was just unheard of. Rather you like it or not thats Floyds father and his son is the one fighting or going to fight Manny so he has every right as a trainer to speak out on how he feels about a fighter.

                  Manny still went on to win FOTD and numerous awards, he is still rated P4P and hasnt had any titles stripped. His fan base is still the same and he is still in the run for the biggest payday of his life. So when did these "opinions" damage Mannys character?

                  Manny is the only athlete in any sport who can refuse a blood test, sue people that suspect him of cheating and still be considered clean. ANy body that goes through the trouble and jump through loops of fire is hidding something. And its only a matter of time before his dirty draws are shown to the world. If he was indeed juicing and has agreed to test which means he will be clean (system should be clean since he has waited so long to agree to terms) he is in a world of TROUBLE.....in the words of FLoyd Sr...BAD NEWS!!!! BAD NEWS GOT CHA BOY!
                  I didn't read all of what you wrote (not cause of any flaws in logic or anything, just being lazy this morning) so I might be offbase with my reply...

                  Slander, in any form is serious. True, a person can give their opinion in any case, but when they stay with it every chance they get, and try to change peoples veiws of a person or there charater, then you have crossed the line. Period!

                  Example: You work for a company, one of the people you work with thinks you are a child ******er (your not, but he thinks so). Every chance this person gets he tells other folks working at the company, rumors go around like wild fire, soon everyone thinks you are some kind of child ******er.

                  Word gets back to you, and you simply say it is not true...Cool. Well your boss doesn't like the thought of a child ******er in the office (he has three kids)! He calls you in the office, and ask you to prove you are not a child ******er, you refuse (as what is there to prove? He can either go off of those rumors, or get some facts before accusing you), then you lose your job over a rumor...That is where lawsuites of "Slander" come in to play. Freedom of speech is great, but it is not right to attack someones charater with out proof!

                  That example may be a bit extreme, and may not even apply, but hey it's early, and I was up all night...Just giving my opinion on the matter.


                  BTW: I am well aware of the situation (the OST's and all), no need to bring that up.

                  Just explaining how voicing your opinion (then trying to state them as facts after time, with no proof of what you speak) can come back to bite you...Sometimes.

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                  • AFighter4U
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by damned1974
                    So lets be honest...has Floyd sr's opinion really harmed Manny's reputation?

                    If you believe so, then keep in mind that Manny has won his election,received awards-fotd, been on TIME magazine, etc and hasn't had a loss of opponents or finances in his boxing career since Floyd sr has expressed this opinion.

                    I am unsure where Mayweather's opinion has truly damaged Manny in ANY way, shape or form....it will be tough to prove that his opinion has even harmed Manny....a lot of doubts happened when Manny refused randomized testing... people didn't just listen to Floyd SR-they watched and listened to Manny's proven lies and excuses and his resistance to randomized testing...he made himself subject to su****ion.

                    Remember,people pay more attention to Manny-not Floyd sr...sometimes that attention isn't always going to work in his favour...
                    What lies have Manny been saying? Perhaps you confused Mike Konz and Roach or even Bob Arum's statements for Manny's? Or maybe you just misunderstood some of what he said since he isn't that fluent in english anyway.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Bacatit
                      Do the police count ?

                      Didn't think so

                      Some of us go through it everyday
                      What does that have to do with the topic?

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