Floyd Mayweather Sr...sued for voicing his opinion???

[AFighter4U]

One example is-he feels weakened and cannot train for days if blood is being drawn...yet as we all seen,he was caught in rigorous sparring bruising up his partners just a day afterwards (maybe even that day).

He also said that he could not do testing 24 days before a fight,yet the video surfaced of him getting blood drawn less than that with the Hatton fight and the Clottey fight.

As we all know,Manny allows Arum, Roach, Ariza, Konz, etc to speak for him...to this day,he never once denied the excuses for needle and blood phobias that were quickly made up as excuses to evade randomized testing-I have not once heard from Manny that Arum and Roach has misrepresented his "story"...perhaps it makes as much sense to sue them for defamation and libel since it harmed his rep....

Where did he ever say that HE CANNOT TRAIN FOR DAYS IF BLOOD IS BEING DRAWN? What i remember is Roach saying that he loses Manny for three days after blood is drawn from him. That in itself can mean A LOT OF THINGS. Either loses meaning manny's not focused, or loses meaning manny's not training at 100% his strength, etc.

True, it would be great if manny makes an official statement correcting his trainer, promoter, etc. of their sometimes contradicting statements, but that's his prerogative and in no way will failure to do so constitute him LYING.

I'm sorry, but unless you are able to give SPECIFIC QUOTES from MANNY HIMSELF where he is shown to actually lie, your statement of manny lying is merely AN OPINION on your part and NOT FACT.

[HandSpeed303]

I'm sorry, but i want to show this.

Those are the kind of people who see ONLY WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE.

I can dig it. I thought you were going to point out a particular race of people. If that was the case, I going to explain to you that was not the route to take.

I do agree with you though, some folks only see what they want. That much is true.

[HandSpeed303]

1. Please. So Pac was recovering from his blood test by having a normal training day? (normal as in usual training schedule). Come on.

2. You are trying to change the subject. Manny said blood tests affect him more then they would Floyd because Floyd weighs a bit more then him. That is a lie. A ****** one at that. And Im sure he doesnt even believe that crap.

Just for the record, the Clottey blood test is not the same thing...Not even close.

Manny has had his blood taken before, not the way he will with OST. I think that is your point, but those two are different.

[AFighter4U]

1. Please. So Pac was recovering from his blood test by having a normal training day? (normal as in usual training schedule). Come on.

2. You are trying to change the subject. Manny said blood tests affect him more then they would Floyd because Floyd weighs a bit more then him. That is a lie. A ****** one at that. And Im sure he doesnt even believe that crap.

1. Why not? Different people deal with different things in various ways. Who are you to say how Manny deals with recovery? Like i said before, these things can be both physical and mental.

2. You BELIEVE he's lying. That's your right and i won't deny you that. But BELIEVING a person is lying and actually PROVING that he's lying are two entirely different things.

Listen. From past experience, we will most likely be doing this going back and forth with our conversation going nowhere fast with us just getting madder at each other as time passes.

Lets just call it a day and simply agree to disagree no?

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Just for the record, the Clottey blood test is not the same thing...Not even close.

Manny has had his blood taken before, not the way he will with OST. I think that is your point, but those two are different.

Look I am not inventing anything.

Manny said he needs 3 days to recover from a blood test. Not a series of random blood tests. Just one test.

Roach said when Manny takes a blood test he loses him for about 3 days.

Those things were proven false in the Clottey training camp.

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1. Why not? Different people deal with different things in various ways. Who are you to say how Manny deals with recovery? Like i said before, these things can be both physical and mental.

2. You BELIEVE he's lying. That's your right and i won't deny you that. But BELIEVING a person is lying and actually PROVING that he's lying are two entirely different things.

Listen. From past experience, we will most likely be doing this going back and forth with our conversation going nowhere fast with us just getting madder at each other as time passes.

Lets just call it a day and simply agree to disagree no?

1. You will keep telling me how Manny is different with everything. Even when it makes no sense. I get it.

2. No I do not believe he is lying. He is lying. Because you can ask any doctor that a difference in weight of a couple of lbs wont make a lick of difference in how a blood tests affects them. Those are scientific facts. Not my opinion, but facts. But I digress. Next time you see your doctor, ask him and let us know what he says.

[AllEyesOpen]

Since when did voicing your opinion become a crime? I thought this was America, land of the freedom and liberty? what happened to that? They asked Floyd Sr what he tought about Manny and he spoke his mind, PERIOD. He felt that a man moving up from 135 to 147 in 6 months was impossible and keeping your speed, increasing power, while being lean was just unheard of. Rather you like it or not thats Floyds father and his son is the one fighting or going to fight Manny so he has every right as a trainer to speak out on how he feels about a fighter.

Manny still went on to win FOTD and numerous awards, he is still rated P4P and hasnt had any titles stripped. His fan base is still the same and he is still in the run for the biggest payday of his life. So when did these "opinions" damage Mannys character?

Manny is the only athlete in any sport who can refuse a blood test, sue people that suspect him of cheating and still be considered clean. ANy body that goes through the trouble and jump through loops of fire is hidding something. And its only a matter of time before his dirty draws are shown to the world. If he was indeed juicing and has agreed to test which means he will be clean (system should be clean since he has waited so long to agree to terms) he is in a world of TROUBLE.....in the words of FLoyd Sr...BAD NEWS!!!! BAD NEWS GOT CHA BOY!

Very true, and in the end, nothing has cast a bigger shadow on Pac's career more then his reaction to the OST, If the Mayweather's would have been running their mouths and Pac had said "I'm clean, bring on the tests" no one would question him, everyone would have thought if was just Sr. talking ****. Instead he came up with excuse after excuse on how it weakens him, he doesn't like needles, I'll only take the tests if i can chose when they're going to stop, completely defeating the purpose.

[HandSpeed303]

Look I am not inventing anything.

Manny said he needs 3 days to recover from a blood test. Not a series of random blood tests. Just one test.

Roach said when Manny takes a blood test he loses him for about 3 days.

Those things were proven false in the Clottey training camp.

I got you pimp. You also have to understand that Manny would not have been able to fight if he didn't take the test. That physical was in place by the Texas commission.

What Floyd and his people ask of Manny could have been accepted or refused. I have said many times before that Manny didn't do himself any favors by the way the situation was handled.

He (Manny) should have just refused it from the get go...The circus that took place after, made Manny a suspect. I get that.

The situations are different though. The Texas thing can't, and should not be used as ammo against Manny...Based on the fact that Manny himself has stated that if the Vegas commission as him to do what ever test, he would.

My point is simply the situations are different.

[damned1974]

Where did he ever say that HE CANNOT TRAIN FOR DAYS IF BLOOD IS BEING DRAWN? What i remember is Roach saying that he loses Manny for three days after blood is drawn from him. That in itself can mean A LOT OF THINGS. Either loses meaning manny's not focused, or loses meaning manny's not training at 100% his strength, etc.

True, it would be great if manny makes an official statement correcting his trainer, promoter, etc. of their sometimes contradicting statements, but that's his prerogative and in no way will failure to do so constitute him LYING.

I'm sorry, but unless you are able to give SPECIFIC QUOTES from MANNY HIMSELF where he is shown to actually lie, your statement of manny lying is merely AN OPINION on your part and NOT FACT.

He said this in numerous interviews when he arrived in the States for his bout with Clottey-and they were recorded.
Not an opinion-it's fact.Check out an interview he does with Brian Kenny....

[HandSpeed303]

Very true, and in the end, nothing has cast a bigger shadow on Pac's career more then his reaction to the OST, If the Mayweather's would have been running their mouths and Pac had said "I'm clean, bring on the tests" no one would question him, everyone would have thought if was just Sr. talking ****. Instead he came up with excuse after excuse on how it weakens him, he doesn't like needles, I'll only take the tests if i can chose when they're going to stop, completely defeating the purpose.

Agreed 100%!!!