Floyd Mayweather Sr...sued for voicing his opinion???

[damned1974]

Very true, and in the end, nothing has cast a bigger shadow on Pac's career more then his reaction to the OST, If the Mayweather's would have been running their mouths and Pac had said "I'm clean, bring on the tests" no one would question him, everyone would have thought if was just Sr. talking ****. Instead he came up with excuse after excuse on how it weakens him, he doesn't like needles, I'll only take the tests if i can chose when they're going to stop, completely defeating the purpose.

That is what I have been saying.I doubt this randomized testing would even be built up as bad as it has been if Manny and his team didn't react the way they did.It served him no purpose,and finding innocence through the judicial system is not a way to solve the issue.It further casts doubts and su****ion-even if he is clean....he is looking for the wrong solution.It is a distraction more than anything else...

[AFighter4U]

1. You will keep telling me how Manny is different with everything. Even when it makes no sense. I get it.

2. No I do not believe he is lying. He is lying. Because you can ask any doctor that a difference in weight of a couple of lbs wont make a lick of difference in how a blood tests affects them. Those are scientific facts. Not my opinion, but facts. But I digress. Next time you see your doctor, ask him and let us know what he says.

Sigh. Ok, this will be my last post for tonight (its 11:42 pm where i'm at).

1. I'm not saying that Manny is different WITH EVERYTHING. I'm just saying you cannot assume to know how a person deals with things. And just because something doesn't make sense to you, it doesn't necessarily mean its illogical. There may be some facts behind things that you are simply not aware of.

2. Actually, it CAN make a difference. Like i said. Its both a physical and psychological thing. A bigger person can assume that he won't be affected as much as a smaller person and convince himself as much and a smaller person can believe that it would affect him more and ALSO convince himself as much.

IF you convince yourself you are weak, then you are right. You are weak.

Just like you can convince yourself a person is lying when he is telling the truth.

[HandSpeed303]

That is what I have been saying.I doubt this randomized testing would even be built up as bad as it has been if Manny and his team didn't react the way they did.It served him no purpose,and finding innocence through the judicial system is not a way to solve the issue.It further casts doubts and su****ion-even if he is clean....he is looking for the wrong solution.It is a distraction more than anything else...

I agree with you, sort of...The only reason I say that is, Manny character is damaged.

No matter what Manny agrees to at this point, 14 days, 0 cut off's, whatever. Folks will still think he is a cheat.

If the fight was to go through, and he came out clean for every test, and some how beats Floyd, many will think he found a way to cheat the system.

His character is damaged. That is where this case comes into play.

[maguirre]

I agree with you, sort of...The only reason I say that is, Manny character is damaged.

Pac was just awarded FOTD award recently. Naa. That's not the sign of a man being damaged. Only *****s/Pac haters say Pac's rep is tainted, damaged, etc. The more Pac haters hate the more sympathy he gets.

[HandSpeed303]

Pac was just awarded FOTD award recently. Naa. That's not the sign of a man being damaged. Only *****s/Pac haters say Pac's rep is tainted, damaged, etc. The more Pac haters hate the more sympathy he gets.

Please get it together, and do some research before coming at me. Thanks in advance.

[damned1974]

I agree with you, sort of...The only reason I say that is, Manny character is damaged.

No matter what Manny agrees to at this point, 14 days, 0 cut off's, whatever. Folks will still think he is a cheat.

If the fight was to go through, and he came out clean for every test, and some how beats Floyd, many will think he found a way to cheat the system.

His character is damaged. That is where this case comes into play.

Well,I don't intend to speak for everyone,but if Manny was to beat Floyd (I am not convinced he will),then I can say that all the credit goes to him.Especially if he agrees to randomized testing.

I think it clears any doubts and only serves him better for this.He really should have done this from the get go.For me,and quite a bit of other people,we would never have thought him to be suspect if there were not all these excuses from him and his team.

I actually picked him to beat Clottey, Cotto, Hatton, etc-based on styles, habits, etc,but the thought of a "hidden" advantage disturbs me and in all honesty,anyone who blatantly has conflict with this form of testing probably will draw negative attention towards themselves.

My only response to yours is-do you think that Floyd sr had more influence over boxing fans perception on Manny using PED's,or do you find Manny's rigidity to cause the larger urge of su****ion?

[HandSpeed303]

Pac was just awarded FOTD award recently. Naa. That's not the sign of a man being damaged. Only *****s/Pac haters say Pac's rep is tainted, damaged, etc. The more Pac haters hate the more sympathy he gets.

Also, I guess Brain Kenny, Teddy Atlas, and other in the sport are Pac haters right?

I don't hate Pac.

Don't be such a hugger.

[HandSpeed303]

Well,I don't intend to speak for everyone,but if Manny was to beat Floyd (I am not convinced he will),then I can say that all the credit goes to him.Especially if he agrees to randomized testing.

I think it clears any doubts and only serves him better for this.He really should have done this from the get go.For me,and quite a bit of other people,we would never have thought him to be suspect if there were not all these excuses from him and his team.

I actually picked him to beat Clottey, Cotto, Hatton, etc-based on styles, habits, etc,but the thought of a "hidden" advantage disturbs me and in all honesty,anyone who blatantly has conflict with this form of testing probably will draw negative attention towards themselves.

Good reply bro.

I feel you. Most of my statement in this topic are to point out that the case does hold water.

Most forget that the rumors started right after the Hatton fight, and never stopped. Leading to the OST demand. I for one think Manny is clean, but i'm not everybody.

I will also give full credit if Manny beats Floyd (I have also picked him to do so)...And will think about OST or PED's again.

[damned1974]

Good reply bro.

I feel you. Most of my statement in this topic are to point out that the case does hold water.

Most forget that the rumors started right after the Hatton fight, and never stopped. Leading to the OST demand. I for one think Manny is clean, but i'm not everybody.

I will also give full credit if Manny beats Floyd (I have also picked him to do so)...And will think about OST or PED's again.

You have picked Floyd or Manny to win?

I'm unsure if Manny is a clean athlete or not.I find all the excuses surrounding him to be bizarre and convenient of someone that should be suspect of using PEDs.

Now I am not saying he is guilty of this,but that his own actions/ lack there of, have caused this su****ion more than not.To be honest,we may never know,but at the very least-the tests can be used as a form of detourent for any PED use...it still serves a purpose.I don't think it should be condemned as it has been by some people.

My response to your previous one is (about Pac's damaged rep)-do you think that Floyd sr had more influence over boxing fans perception on Manny using PED's,or do you find Manny's rigidity to cause the larger urge of su****ion?

[paulf]

Lawsuits a ***** move but whatever. Business is business. I just hope it doesnt stop the fight from happening.