The Oscar who beat Mayorga would have beaten Margarito

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  • -Huey-
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    #31
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    Why you say that though? Because, Floyd started slow like always, coasting and carrying Oscar throughout the fight?

    What did Oscar do before hand? Get a gift decision and beat 2 guys who's chin was crack by Tito? That is what he did. Prior to getting carried by Floyd. I don't see that version beating Margarito.

    The 90's version destroys Margarito. But, the last 10 years Oscar is the most overrated fighter. People still thought of him as the 90's version.
    You're a good poster J, but I don't take anything serious that you say when it comes to Oscar, from your avatar to your sig plain Oscar hate. Kinda sad because Oscar was a very good fighter who fought everybody in his prime.

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    • Doctor_Tenma
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      #32
      Originally posted by savorduhflavor
      Unfair to use 160 version of Oscar as a barometer. Oscar did beat Mosley in the 2nd fight.

      Margarito gets hit too much. A guy like Oscar, who you said was inconsistent with his left hook at the time, gets right back in the rhythm of things with a guy as easy to hit as Margarito.

      Margarito would get beat up. Hell, I think Oscar could come back right now and KO Margarito. Oscar is much too ring savvy to let Margarito corner him like Cotto did.

      I would almost venture to say that Margarito wouldn't even have a chance against any version of Oscar.
      When Margarito was having his shine, I had to keep that to myself. It was hard though.

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      • jrosales13
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        #33
        Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
        You underrated Oscar's defense man. Didn't you see him pick off alot of Mayweather's shots? Imagine the much slower Margarito at 154. Come on Jros. Also I never said Oscar's defense was great.
        But, that Mayweather even though as fast as he is. Was a one shot at the time, pot shoting. Marg is a volume puncher and Oscar D is not great. Marg will land, Marg will put pressure, Marg had heavy hands, Oscar had stamina issues.

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        • savorduhflavor
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          #34
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          I had Shane winning the 2nd fight.

          And, I would love to see Oscar comeback and fight Marg. It would be another sig worthy performance. And, the 2 are not the same fighter that they were 2006 either. So that means nothing.

          That version of Oscar got hit a lot too BTW.
          Got hit by people that are much better than Margarito. Oscar's no sweet pea, but the guy isn't that easy to hit. I can't believe this is even an argument.

          Oscar would not retreat, he would stand his ground and Oscar's chin is just as good as Margarito's just about. Not to mention Oscar's a much better puncher.

          Margarito needs to get guys up against the ropes to unleash. He wouldn't get Oscar against the ropes.

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          • Clyde Barrow
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            #35
            PBF doesn't get near enough credit for his win over Oscar in 07. That form of Oscar was certainly good enough to beat some guys at 154 at that time. I do however feel that Margarito would have won though. Oscar couldn't keep pace with him for a full 12 rounds, and he wouldn't have the power to get rid of him before 8, when his stamina problem shows up. I would have loved to see Oscar-Margarito at 154 or 147 in late 08. Oscar just wasn't confident enough to take a risky fight for less money with him over what was supposed to be a cakewalk with Pac for bigger money.

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              #36
              Originally posted by -Huey-
              You're a good poster J, but I don't take anything serious that you say when it comes to Oscar, from your avatar to your sig plain Oscar hate. Kinda sad because Oscar was a very good fighter who fought everybody in his prime.
              That is cool... It don't bother me.

              But, that version of Oscar wasn't in his prime....

              What bad things have I said about a prime Oscar?

              People say that I am blinded cuz I hate Oscar so much. Which I admit that I do hate Oscar.

              However, am I saying Margarito would beat a prime Oscar? Am I saying that Oscar in his prime had stamina issues or did the part time fighter, full time promoter have stamina issues? The one who didn't train seriously and got beat up in sparring?

              Am I talking about a prime Oscar or the 2000's version of Oscar?

              I understand if I was blinded if I was talking about a prime Oscar. But, I am talking about a guy who literally had done **** but piggy back off Tito left overs since 2000. If I am wrong tell me what he do then?

              He was the most overrated fighter in the last 10 years. When people were talking about him. They talk about him like if he was the Oscar of the 90's, the hungry fighter, the fighter who trained properly, act like if he was a full time fighter.

              And, that really wasn't the case with him at all anymore. I never understood why people still saw Oscar in that light and I never will. It baffled me that people that version of Oscar was the 90's version.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Clyde Barrow
                PBF doesn't get near enough credit for his win over Oscar in 07. That form of Oscar was certainly good enough to beat some guys at 154 at that time. I do however feel that Margarito would have won though. Oscar couldn't keep pace with him for a full 12 rounds, and he wouldn't have the power to get rid of him before 8, when his stamina problem shows up. I would have loved to see Oscar-Margarito at 154 or 147 in late 08. Oscar just wasn't confident enough to take a risky fight for less money with him over what was supposed to be a cakewalk with Pac for bigger money.
                Not one bit, especially considering the size disparity. Just wrong to even try and discredit that win.

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                • savorduhflavor
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                  #38
                  He was still on another level from Margarito.

                  I pointed this out earlier...Margarito, in order to really do work like he's good at, needs to get guys up against the ropes. That's how he fights, he pressures, gets his opponent to go into a shell and than he unleashes with vicious combinations against the ropes.

                  Margarito would never find Oscar on the ropes. Oscar would keep that fight in the center of the ring and Margarito would get either shut out or stopped.

                  ANY version of Oscar.

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                  • Va_BoriKua
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                    #39
                    jro no i don't agree the oscar that fought floyd woulda ko'd or ud margarito hes just much more skilled than marg and also the same height and has one of the best chins. He'd be to fast to much power for marg who's most damage comes when his opponents are on the ropes like he did to cotto but oscar wouldn't get caught in the ropes like that.

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                    • Aut_72
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                      #40
                      Prime Mosley could not KO Oscar in 2 fights
                      A past prime Mosley Koed Margarito with ease...

                      Im not saying Oscar would walk through Margarito, but the only great quality that Mago has is Chin and stamina, and that wouldn't be enough in my opinion to beat Oscar.

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