Who Has The Better Resume?

[CarlosG815]

Its been a while since I've seen Pac-jmm 1, but I had no problem with the first decision seeing as how the refs refused to score the first round 10-6 to Pacquiao.

I scored the second fight a draw, with the kd being the deciding factor

I also had Mayweather losing his first fight with Castillo

The first fight which was scored a draw was close, although I do feel JMM deserved the nod it's not a decision that is definitive robbery, whereas in the second fight JMM had won the fight convincingly, despite being ducked by Pacquiao for years while Manny waited for JMM to be shot. Most Filipino journalists in the Philippines had scored the second fight in JMM's favor as well as everybody else, aside from the corrupt judges who were the official score keepers.

I have watched both fights several times over the last few months and JMM win's both fights.

Floyd's fight with Castillo has been argued by many but I don't see how people can say Castillo won definitively. Either way, Floyd came back later that same year and schooled Castillo, something Manny has never done and refused to do after his controversial gift draw over JMM which allowed him to hang onto his title.

[Toney616]

pacquiao has never really beatin marquez

The first round of that fight should of been scored 10-6 round, but the refs scored it a 10-7 round. The second fight I scored a draw, in fact Pac should of been given a nother kd as jmm used the ropes to keep himself up

genaro hernandez only had 1 lost and that was to delahoya at a higher weight and losin to oscar especiallyy at that time was not a big deal bein that everyone thought he was so great

he was at the end of his career and retired after that fight, you cannot compare that win to pacs win over barrera

and jesus chavez had not lost in about 7 years when he fought floyd andonly had 1 lost where as bareera was knocked out twice by junior jones

List Chavez's three best wins

[ummeed]

no he beat a shot to **** morales

yeah because mosley, dlh and jmm were both in their prime when floyd beat them right?

sure morales may be shot during the 3rd fight but he was more than a live opponent during the rematch. past-prime, maybe... but i don't believe he was "shot to ****".

[Doctor_Tenma]

rite now the vote says pac 21 - mayweather 9....

close to a 2-1 favorite....much like how the fighter of the decade was won, digz?

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floyds a great great boxer(the best skill wise), but larry dont try to explain why corrales is a better name than barrera.....unbelieveable

In all seriousness, I wouldn't dare go there. But the fact that Corrales was a one-punch knock out artist and damn near came into the ring as a WW, doesn't that equate to something? Doesn't size come into the equation? Think it was the 8th round, although Corrales didn't have much left; I saw alot of power in his punches. He threw shots that could have taken Mayweather's head off.

[Toney616]

The first fight which was scored a draw was close, although I do feel JMM deserved the nod it's not a decision that is definitive robbery

Fair enough

, whereas in the second fight JMM had won the fight convincingly,

Did you score the fight yourself and if you did can you post up your scorecard?

despite being ducked by Pacquiao for years while Manny waited for JMM to be shot. Most Filipino journalists in the Philippines had scored the second fight in JMM's favor as well as everybody else, aside from the corrupt judges who were the official score keepers.

True, Pac should get flack for waiting so long before giving jmm a rematch

I have watched both fights several times over the last few months and JMM win's both fights.

Floyd's fight with Castillo has been argued by many but I don't see how people can say Castillo won definitively.

I think I scored it 7-5-1 to Castillo, when I find my scorecard ill post it up, maybe tomorrow. Castillo dominated from rounds 5 onwards, he was more active, the agressor and landed the harder clean punches imo.
To quote Lampley after the scorecards were read, "that's not the fight we just watched"

Either way, Floyd came back later that same year and schooled Castillo, something Manny has never done and refused to do after his controversial gift draw over JMM which allowed him to hang onto his title.

Giving counter-punchers a rematch is always a bad idea, especially if they have figured out your style, but it doesn't make up for the bad decision from their first fight

[qwerty07]

not 1 person listed why mannys resume is better..you listed mannys 10 best wins and they werent better then the 10 best wins i listed for floyd..you list mab 2 times and larios for god sakes....mannys resume isnt better than floyds

I think you are having a harder time convincing yourself that Mayweather has a good resume than convincing others, because it's so insane what you're saying.


1-corrales-former champ at 130 p4p top 5 Legit win
2-mosley-wba champ p4p#3 40 year old grandpa, 1.5 years inactivity, gassed after second round
3-hatton-linear lww champ,former wba ww champ top 5 p4p bloated
4-oscar-wbc lmw champ way past his prime, same when Pac fought him
5-hernendez-#1 at 130 wbc champ Who?
6-judah-former linear champ at ww beaten by Tszyu who mayweather ducked, lost to spinks and baldy JUST BEFORE mayweather bout
7-gatti-wbc lww champ past his prime, wasn't an impressive win
8-castillo-wbc lw champ lost the first bout, won the second
9-baldo-linear ww champ destroyed by clottey in his prime before DQ, old and fat vs mayweather
10-jmm-linear lw champ-p4p#2 OMG, you had to mention this fatty?

So yeah, not so impressive when you really analyze it.

[infamous larryx]

yeah because mosley, dlh and jmm were both in their prime when floyd beat them right?

sure morales may be shot during the 3rd fight but he was more than a live opponent during the rematch. past-prime, maybe... but i don't believe he was "shot to ****".

non of those 3 were coming off of shut out loses at a higher weight..oscar just ko's mayorga,shane just ko's margo..and jmm just ko'd juan diaz

[ummeed]

The first fight which was scored a draw was close, although I do feel JMM deserved the nod it's not a decision that is definitive robbery, whereas in the second fight JMM had won the fight convincingly, despite being ducked by Pacquiao for years while Manny waited for JMM to be shot. Most Filipino journalists in the Philippines had scored the second fight in JMM's favor as well as everybody else, aside from the corrupt judges who were the official score keepers.

I have watched both fights several times over the last few months and JMM win's both fights.

Floyd's fight with Castillo has been argued by many but I don't see how people can say Castillo won definitively. Either way, Floyd came back later that same year and schooled Castillo, something Manny has never done and refused to do after his controversial gift draw over JMM which allowed him to hang onto his title.

jmm was too busy hanging out in romanza inn with some korean guy munching his tacos while pac's camp was chasing them asking for a rematch.

[letsgobrady]

The first round of that fight should of been scored 10-6 round, but the refs scored it a 10-7 round. The second fight I scored a draw, in fact Pac should of been given a nother kd as jmm used the ropes to keep himself up

he was at the end of his career and retired after that fight, you cannot compare that win to pacs win over barrera

List Chavez's three best wins

it doesn't make a difference if 1 judge scored it wrong he could of fixed but he didn't so that just goes to show that he didn't think manny won it's kinda hard to see manny clearly winning more than 2 rounds of the 1st fight.
genero hernandez was 31 or 32 when he fought floyd and had not lost in about 3-4years and that was to oscar in a higher weight.
so genero doesn't count because he retired after floyd beat him up?i don't remember ricky or oscar fighting again after they lost to manny

3 chavez wins
Leavander Johnson
Emanuel Augustus
carlos gerena

[infamous larryx]

I think you are having a harder time convincing yourself that Mayweather has a good resume than convincing others, because it's so insane what you're saying.


1-corrales-former champ at 130 p4p top 5 Legit win
2-mosley-wba champ p4p#3 40 year old grandpa, 1.5 years inactivity, gassed after second round
3-hatton-linear lww champ,former wba ww champ top 5 p4p bloated
4-oscar-wbc lmw champ way past his prime, same when Pac fought him
5-hernendez-#1 at 130 wbc champ Who?
6-judah-former linear champ at ww beaten by Tszyu who mayweather ducked, lost to spinks and baldy JUST BEFORE mayweather bout
7-gatti-wbc lww champ
8-castillo-wbc lw champ lost the first bout, won the second
9-baldo-linear ww champ destroyed by clottey in his prime before DQ, old and fat vs mayweather
10-jmm-linear lw champ-p4p#2 OMG, you had to mention this fatty?

So yeah, not so impressive when you really analyze it.

pleaselist mannys top 10 wins..please