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  • BigDozer260
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    #61
    I post on here about once every 6 months now, the last time I posted was before the Pacquiao vs Cotto fight, but I'm compelled to post again. Why? Ok this has been bugging me for some time now and I'm just going to say it...The easiest test to pass is the one that you know is coming. Every fighter knows months ahead of time when the drug test are and if you fail them then you're a dumb ass.

    It's naive to think that boxing, the worlds most corrupt sport, doesn't have pharmaceutical enhanced cheaters. If you believe that all of the best fighters are clean then you're ****ing nuts!!! Even pro hormones or steroid precursors are still considered to be ban substances, and up until recently were totally legal.

    I'll admit after Pacquiao's destruction of Cotto, and before Mayweather Sr. said a thing my su****ions were very high about the nature of his increase in kinetic energy transfer and holdover speed. This though isn't the nature of my post, I just want people to stop thinking that the use of performance enhancing drugs are beyond anyone. Look at some of the sports heroes over the years that have been caught or admitted use, and look at their performances over time.

    All I'm saying is that people who are prepared for a pop quiz, the one that have listened in class and studied all related materials are the ones that pass. The ones who fail are the one who only prepared for the know test dates, and they show who they really are when they fail.

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    • Right_cross
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      #62
      Manny Pacquiao passed all drug test that were given to him before. He also passed all the blood test that was given to him before. He was willing to take a blood test 14 days before the fight and IMMEDIATELY after the fight! If you are using banned substances, it will definitely show when you are tested IMMEDIATELY after the fight! So why the **** the mayweathers keeps on accusing Pacquiao? ******s don't dominate boxing anymore, they are so insecure because beside basketball the only thing that they are good at is boxing. But times are changing, asians, hispanics, eastern european are slowly but surely taking over the game of boxing. That is why they are so insecure about Manny Pacquiao!

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      • joehero
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        #63
        I read that if taken the right PED's it would enhance Pac's training tremendously. And that is a huge boost come fight night. By the time they test immediately after the fight it will be out of his system. So the PED's are for training camp only. It has something to do with oxygen levels in the bloodstream increasing, meaning Pac (if he is taking PED's) would be able to train harder and longer without as much rest. So it's the best of both worlds, significantly increase your performance in training while retaining the incredible power and stamina until fight night AND the PED's in his bloodstream would be long gone. So even an immediate test in the locker room after the fight Pac would not get caught. Thats what Mayweather is afraid of.
        As much as I want Floyd's ass to get whopped his concerns are legit. Don't worry man they will fight eventually Mayweather's greed will change his mind and his logic wont matter anymore. Just sit back and be patient. Go PAC!!!!

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        • spoonwars
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          #64
          Originally posted by Right_cross
          Idiot boxing fans suddenly became experts in blood testing and steroids use. You should at least at the minimum have college degree in biology, nursing, chemistry or better yet medicine before giving comments about blood testing and drug use! It simply shows how moronic the American boxing fans are!
          you can't even trust the word of the so-called experts with bs degrees because they don't even know anything... ever heard of a sure-fire drug test that detects every illegal substance known to mankind yet?

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          • spoonwars
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            #65
            Originally posted by joehero
            I read that if taken the right PED's it would enhance Pac's training tremendously. And that is a huge boost come fight night. By the time they test immediately after the fight it will be out of his system. So the PED's are for training camp only. It has something to do with oxygen levels in the bloodstream increasing, meaning Pac (if he is taking PED's) would be able to train harder and longer without as much rest. So it's the best of both worlds, significantly increase your performance in training while retaining the incredible power and stamina until fight night AND the PED's in his bloodstream would be long gone. So even an immediate test in the locker room after the fight Pac would not get caught. Thats what Mayweather is afraid of.
            As much as I want Floyd's ass to get whopped his concerns are legit. Don't worry man they will fight eventually Mayweather's greed will change his mind and his logic wont matter anymore. Just sit back and be patient. Go PAC!!!!
            mayweather doesn't even care for the blood testing. he admitted he ain't gonna do anything to promote it with other fighters and so on. he's going to drop the whole issue sooner or later - likely after the pac fight's done or no longer possible.

            he knows it's bs and doesn't plan on wasting his precious money on it for much longer.

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            • MurderDeathKill
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              #66
              I don't see Cotto changing anything in a rematch with Pac. He looked good vs an average fighter in Foreman, but he wouldn't have Pac on the run like he was in that fight. No point to a rematch tbh. Cotto should be worrying about Margarito. /He can win that fight if he fought smarter this time. Pac is just too fast for him. If Pac did decide to fight Cotto again, he better not ask for another catchweight.

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              • MarxStalin
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                #67
                Originally posted by joehero
                I read that if taken the right PED's it would enhance Pac's training tremendously. And that is a huge boost come fight night. By the time they test immediately after the fight it will be out of his system. So the PED's are for training camp only. It has something to do with oxygen levels in the bloodstream increasing, meaning Pac (if he is taking PED's) would be able to train harder and longer without as much rest. So it's the best of both worlds, significantly increase your performance in training while retaining the incredible power and stamina until fight night AND the PED's in his bloodstream would be long gone. So even an immediate test in the locker room after the fight Pac would not get caught. Thats what Mayweather is afraid of.
                As much as I want Floyd's ass to get whopped his concerns are legit. Don't worry man they will fight eventually Mayweather's greed will change his mind and his logic wont matter anymore. Just sit back and be patient. Go PAC!!!!
                What's your source? For all we know this is something right outta your hallucinations or some obscure forum thread. Get some hard evidence, buddy.

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                • 1pretty boy1
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by (Fowler)
                  Miguel's one of my favorite fighters and it pains me to say this,but tbh with you I don't see Cotto beating Pacquiao this time around.Miguel has to get his confidence back first,also work a little more with Steward b4 I say he has a chance against Manny.

                  Mayweather-Pacquiao is the fight the boxing world's waiting for,and a fight people are drooling over
                  +100.
                  miguel is one of my favorites fighters but he is not the same any more pacquaio will beat him once again. the only match i would like to see it mayweather-pacquaio the winner of the bout can retire after it from the sport cuz he has nothing to prove anymore.and what about margarito i think he should be banned for life, he doesn't deserve to fight pac.

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                  • AFighter4U
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                    #69
                    The problem here is that people tend to treat speculations as fact and fact as speculation.

                    For example, Manny, in the 10 plus years he's been fighting as a boxer took and passed every single drug test thrown at him. That's a fact.

                    But haters dismiss that and speculate that he cheated his way to victory. That is a speculation which they treat as fact.

                    Another speculation is how HGH benefits the fighters. The actual benefits of HGH usage is unknown and experts disagree if there even IS a benefit for boxers in taking HGH. That is because no scientific study has been made in the benefits of taking such. Some scientists even say HGH is useless to boxers without the added benefits of other PEDS.

                    Can HGH make one's chin harder? Reflexes faster? Recovery rate better? Improve one's fighting style? No one really knows. Its all speculation.

                    And yet people (mostly haters and the ignorant) speculate that Manny's astounding speed, stamina and reflexes are all products of HGH and other PEDS and then treat it as FACT.

                    Ultimately, it all depends on the individual really.

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                    • MarxStalin
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by AFighter4U
                      The problem here is that people tend to treat speculations as fact and fact as speculation.

                      For example, Manny, in the 10 plus years he's been fighting as a boxer took and passed every single drug test thrown at him. That's a fact.

                      But haters dismiss that and speculate that he cheated his way to victory. That is a speculation which they treat as fact.

                      Another speculation is how HGH benefits the fighters. The actual benefits of HGH usage is unknown and experts disagree if there even IS a benefit for boxers in taking HGH. That is because no scientific study has been made in the benefits of taking such. Some scientists even say HGH is useless to boxers without the added benefits of other PEDS.

                      Can HGH make one's chin harder? Reflexes faster? Recovery rate better? Improve one's fighting style? No one really knows. Its all speculation.

                      And yet people (mostly haters and the ignorant) speculate that Manny's astounding speed, stamina and reflexes are all products of HGH and other PEDS and then treat it as FACT.

                      Ultimately, it all depends on the individual really.
                      Very well said, sir.

                      In addition, the only basis haters have for their accussations is Manny's initial hesitation to take the tests. Is it hard to understand that an athlete of Manny's importance within the sport refuses to be cheated like a cheater when there is no basis? That's like asking Kobe Bryant to take tests right before the NBA finals. He's not gonna do it just because players from the opposing team can't take how good he is.

                      Bottom line, Manny doesn't have to take these tests but he will coz he wants fans to have the fight they want to see.

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