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  • shadeyfizzle
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    #181
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    1. Are EPO and HGH the only two PEDs in this world?

    2. Why is it that more people have been caught on EPO using the blood test than the urine test?
    because nsac only tests post-fight and not on an ongoing basis.

    So again. Why is the cutoff date on blood testing such a big issue when there will still be urine tests everyday until the fight and a post fight blood test?

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    • IMDAZED
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      #182
      Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
      because nsac only tests post-fight and not on an ongoing basis.

      So again. Why is the cutoff date on blood testing such a big issue when there will still be urine tests everyday until the fight and a post fight blood test?
      NSAC hasn't caught ANYONE on EPO so what are you talking about? Read the question again, apply it to WADA and then see if you can come up with the right answer this time.

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      • | THE KING |
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        #183
        This article was well.. ETHER! Chief medical officer Of the OLYMPIC committee. > *

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        • check hook
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          #184
          Originally posted by JAB5239

          He'll never get it, he simply doesn't have the capacity. He's a biased nuthugger. Floyd is his god.


          The same argument you always fall back on......anyone who questions Manny is a *****.........


          IMADAZED doesn't even like Floyd........he was hoping Mosley would beat him like he stole something...........

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          • Vasyl’s dad
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            #185
            Originally posted by Red_Menace
            Well, they'll never jump from 0 to 100% participation in a new testing program. It would be phased in. Why not start at the top? Plus you have the issue of what other states do and whether they'll cooperate with the USADA or whatever other outsourced testing body. Boxing is not like baseball that has a commissioner to represent the sport in the country. The cheats will move to whatever state lets them fight with the least amount of testing. I'm sure none of the promoters, Golden Boy included, have any real interest in cleaning up the sport.


            And thats another part of the problem.

            Imo, the only ones who can make a dent in all this seeing as there are no leagues and whatnot,

            are the sanctioning bodies who rank and title these fighters. Make them become a part of the process. For instance, if you want to fight and be ranked in the WBC, you subject yourself to year round random testing. If not, go fight for the IBF ranks and titles who doesn't have the same protocol.

            There are solutions, but its going to take tons of work.

            Singling out one fighter is never going to do it because all that is, is discrimination.

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            • IMDAZED
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              #186
              Originally posted by check hook
              The same argument you always fall back on......anyone who questions Manny is a *****.........


              IMADAZED doesn't even like Floyd........he was hoping Mosley would beat him like he stole something...........
              It's ok, check. When it comes to drug testing, I'm Floyd's biggest fan.

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              • Pullcounter
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                #187
                Originally posted by check hook
                An external contract formed by boxing stakeholders (promoters, networks, sanctioning bodies, state commissions) with USADA would have 100% coverage on a sliding scale. This means all pro boxers can be tested, but it's likely the top 5% will be the ones who get tested given the practicalities of testing every participant-----> you can't.

                However testing for all championship fights and frequent testing of the "faces" and "stars" of boxing maintains the sports integrity.

                Everyone on here is essentially trashing it because it is not perfect and won't test 100% of all participants....and this is their justification not to have it. This is true. this is reality..it won't test everyone.....however the current "inferior" system doesn't either.........so i don't understand your argument. Your arguing to keeep the current system in place over a better one, because the better one isn't PERFECT!!!!!!

                1) it should not be on a sliding scale, it should be randomized so that all boxers get the benefit of knowing their opponents are clean.

                2) champions and "faces" and "stars" shouldn't be the only one to benefit from this change. that decreases the integrity of the sport because it creates an unequal playing field for those who are not champions, faces or stars. but no doubt the new testing will be featured in high profile fights at some point.

                3) I say change to the less inferior testing, but change it so that the benefits are for all, not just a few.

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                • JAB5239
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                  #188
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  Aww, poor lil f*g can't keep up on the debate. Had to resort to lies . I never said Pac was on HGH. Why do you feel compelled to lie? Do you feel...insecure?
                  Do athletes age the same? Answer the question and I'll be happy to answer yours. Or is Queeny the one who is really feeling insecure with all those closet feelings she's trying to hide with her tough guy attitude?

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                  • Vasyl’s dad
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                    #189
                    Originally posted by check hook
                    all testing is conducted on sliding scales in every sport.........
                    and all athletes are participants,

                    not just a select few.

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                    • johncods
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                      #190
                      Holy **** if pac is not on EPO or HGH he must be really on that A-side Meth?? Is their even a test for that??? LOL.

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