Urine TKOs blood in Nevada boxing drug testing debate

[check hook]

So how exactly did Marion Jones get away with EPO usage??? By the way i like how floyd is wearin the zigtechs in your sig. Just got me a pair. comfortable as hell.

I'm not sure if she was on EPO.........i would doubt it though.....it wouldn't be of as much use to a short distance sprinter as the THG she was taking..........and just FYI----->the reason she got away with the THG use----> the testers didn't even know THG existed, therefore had no test in place.

Additionally i am not arguing USADA testing cannot be beaten. It can especially by an individual who knows how and when the PED's should be administered (think the guy Marion was buying her PED's from). I am arguing that is is far superior to NSAC testing (the best commission mandated tersting in the United States)

[Pullcounter]

OST is not worthless, but if every boxer is not tested, you're not really cleaning up the sport are you?

also, targeting a few boxers is unfair to every boxer who deserves to know that their opponent is clean.

as for a pac/floyd fight, pac has agreed to a 14 day cut off that floyd previously thought was fine, but now has changed his position. if 14 days was good before, why not now? what changed? Especially since mosley/floyd had an 18 day cut off.

if it's all about money for floyd, then just say floyd's holding back for a bigger cut, and stop saying floyd is on some crusade to save boxing when he ain't.

[check hook]

So how exactly did Marion Jones get away with EPO usage??? By the way i like how floyd is wearin the zigtechs in your sig. Just got me a pair. comfortable as hell.

**** i can't find a pair here in Australia yet...........footlocker doesn't have them yet

[Red_Menace]

Better testing??? of the thousands of athletes it tests usada has caught 1 rugby player in 8 years. And they certainly dropped the ball on that marion jones incident.

NSAC has caught Funeka, Chavez jr, Nino, Jones, Toney, Vargas, plus several others in just the past 8

There have been a ton of athlete's caught by implementations of the world anti-doping code. I couldn't find an exact number, but you can find incomplete lists which are huge. The number of guys caught in cycling each year is crazy.

As for the Marion Jones thing, she competed before the USADA existed and continued when the USADA and the anti-doping code were relatively new. The tests get better all the time. The testing they do is the top of the line, and NSAC is not. It's not even arguable.

[check hook]

OST is not worthless, but if every boxer is not tested, you're not really cleaning up the sport are you?

also, targeting a few boxers is unfair to every boxer who deserves to know that their opponent is clean.

as for a pac/floyd fight, pac has agreed to a 14 day cut off that floyd previously thought was fine, but now has changed his position. if 14 days was good before, why not now? what changed? Especially since mosley/floyd had an 18 day cut off.

if it's all about money for floyd, then just say floyd's holding back for a bigger cut, and stop saying floyd is on some crusade to save boxing when he ain't.

i would start picking this post apart (and your worthlessness in general) but you might need Reed to step in for you by the end of it

Nice of him....considering you called him a *****.

[JAB5239]

why don't you answer some of the questions i am *****g forward in this thread and the other one instead of acting like a petulant child whose mother took away the rattle?

That would be too much to ask wouldn't it???

Or pehaps you can't give any answers that amount to anything other than your usual incessant prattle

Why would I bother with your biased questions? Your not an expert but try and come off as one. Fact is the real experts are divided on this issue. Fact is OST has caught 1 (ONE) hgh user in 8 years. All of a sudden these testing methods are much more questionable than previously thought. do I need to dig up the posts with you glorifying OST for its hgh testing? You were wrong. This fight can be made tomorrow if Floyd wants bit. Pac tried to compromise, Floyd don't wanna hear it. Lol, Whatever!

[shadeyfizzle]

I'm not sure if she was on EPO.........i would doubt it though.....it wouldn't be of as much use to a short distance sprinter as the THG she was taking..........and just FYI----->the reason she got away with the THG use----> the testers didn't even know THG existed, therefore had no test in place.

Additionally i am not arguing USADA testing cannot be beaten. It can especially by an individual who knows how and when the PED's should be administered (think the guy Marion was buying her PED's from). I am arguing that is is far superior to NSAC testing (the best commission mandated tersting in the United States)

im not gonna claim to be an expert on peds because i'm not. all i know is that the reason jones got away with it is the same reason mosley got away with it. Because there was no test for it at the time. NSAC went on to catch vargas with i'm not if it was epo exactly, but some form of anabolic steroids.

So while im all for better testing....i fail to see why the blood cutoff date is such a big issue if daily urine tests are still performed.

[Pullcounter]

i would start picking this post apart (and your worthlessness in general) but you might need Reed to step in for you by the end of it

Nice of him....considering you called him a *****.

you ain't **** without your homeboys

[IMDAZED]

Why would I bother with your biased questions? Your not an expert but try and come off as one. Fact is the real experts are divided on this issue. Fact is OST has caught 1 (ONE) hgh user in 8 years. All of a sudden these testing methods are much more questionable than previously thought. do I need to dig up the posts with you glorifying OST for its hgh testing? You were wrong. This fight can be made tomorrow if Floyd wants bit. Pac tried to compromise, Floyd don't wanna hear it. Lol, Whatever!

LOL @ this f*g who says he wants tougher testing now trying to slam OSTs. Conveniently forgetting that OST testing makes NSAC testing look like a game of tiddlywinks. These ****s will do anything to keep Manny from getting tested by that mean old Floyd.

[check hook]

Why would I bother with your biased questions? Your not an expert but try and come off as one. Fact is the real experts are divided on this issue. Fact is OST has caught 1 (ONE) hgh user in 8 years. All of a sudden these testing methods are much more questionable than previously thought. do I need to dig up the posts with you glorifying OST for its hgh testing? You were wrong. This fight can be made tomorrow if Floyd wants bit. Pac tried to compromise, Floyd don't wanna hear it. Lol, Whatever!

provide an example of an expert who is divided on the issue????

please do..............