Urine TKOs blood in Nevada boxing drug testing debate

[check hook]

Better testing??? of the thousands of athletes it tests usada has caught 1 rugby player in 8 years.

NSAC has caught Funeka, Chavez jr, Nino, Jones, Toney, Vargas, plus several others in just the past 8

That was for HGH.......not all PED's. Again people seem to be skewing fact to support inherently weak arguments. HGH is a relative new comer in terms of PED use in sport. The test for HGH has been recently synthesised. They weren't even sure it would work......now they have proof. Couple this with the fact there is a very small window with which the test is accurate it is indeed difficult to catch athletes using HGH.......expect it to happen more often.

Those guys you listed flunked for steroids or diuretics (post-fight i might add). The NSA does not test for HGH or EPO so they have 0% chance of catching anyone. USADA does test for HGH and EPO so they at least have a chance.

Additionally 0% = no deterrent in place.

[Red_Menace]

I'd say Nevada has more to lose with a proper drug testing policy than USADA has to gain from administering the tests.

Hypothetically, if Manny and Floyd agreed to fight in Nevada, and they were tested by the USADA, and either Floyd or Manny failed a drug test, what do you think would happen? The NSAC would lose their minds. Think of all the money that would have slipped away from the state. They do not want to test like baseball and football did not want to test, and hockey still does not want to test. Baseball fell in love with home runs, and they protected the juice-heads because they were filling the seats. They were forced to make changes; They wouldn't have done it on their own.

I'm not sure why the USADA is being pinned as some ultra-corrupt organization and the NSAC is being defended as if it is some kind of puritan organization. My understanding is that to maintain non-profit status, earnings cannot be paid out to the benefit of individuals in that group. Like if they started testing boxers, they couldn't just pay themselves a bonus for a job well done. Since non-profits are generally tax-exempt from certain things, they are audited heavily.

Sure, Manny and Floyd could fight without the testing. But as fans, shouldn't we be demanding something better? There's a chance both Floyd and Manny could be abusing something, so I say we find out. Besides the risk to eachother, having a competitive advantage in a contact sport, most of these drugs are incredibly dangerous to the users. Lots of EPO type blood boosters are designed for people with anemia. And the good thing about the world anti-doping code is it gets updated frequently with the latest tests and research. You have one central program that all of the worlds anti-doping scientists pour their work into. The best idea is to tap into that, not go your own route and try to do things in isolation. Information sharing is a beautiful thing.

[JAB5239]

recently synthesised test + small clearance time = small window of opportunity. Give it a few years. They weren't catching the guys on EPO before either.

And how about EPO------>which the NSAC does not test for????


- So which testing method is better the NSAC or USADA????


- oh that's right you don't care

I say again.........you are all for OST, but ________________________<---------inserts silly excuse here.

1 dirty test for hgh in 8 years? The experts are divided, the fight can be made if Floyd wants it. Now go dry your tears.

[check hook]

I'd say Nevada has more to lose with a proper drug testing policy than USADA has to gain from administering the tests.

Hypothetically, if Manny and Floyd agreed to fight in Nevada, and they were tested by the USADA, and either Floyd or Manny failed a drug test, what do you think would happen? The NSAC would lose their minds. Think of all the money that would have slipped away from the state. They do not want to test like baseball and football did not want to test, and hockey still does not want to test. Baseball fell in love with home runs, and they protected the juice-heads because they were filling the seats. They were forced to make changes; They wouldn't have done it on their own.

I'm not sure why the USADA is being pinned as some ultra-corrupt organization and the NSAC is being defended as if it is some kind of puritan organization. My understanding is that to maintain non-profit status, earnings cannot be paid out to the benefit of individuals in that group. Like if they started testing boxers, they couldn't just pay themselves a bonus for a job well done. Since non-profits are generally tax-exempt from certain things, they are audited heavily.

Sure, Manny and Floyd could fight without the testing. But as fans, shouldn't we be demanding something better? There's a chance both Floyd and Manny could be abusing something, so I say we find out. Besides the risk to eachother, having a competitive advantage in a contact sport, most of these drugs are incredibly dangerous to the users. Lots of EPO type blood boosters are designed for people with anemia. And the good thing about the world anti-doping code is it gets updated frequently with the latest tests and research. You have one central program that all of the worlds anti-doping scientists pour their work into. The best idea is to tap into that, not go your own route and try to do things in isolation. Information sharing is a beautiful thing.

This is essentially why promoters or sanctining bodies don't care. If they spent money promoting fights and the fight didn't happen because of a pre-fight flunked test = lost money.

[JAB5239]

Look at them, fighting vehemently against tougher testing. You'd think the posters on here are taking roids themselves.

"Ohh that Tygert, he's just so bad!" - Brick Wall, who made up a lie yesterday about Tygert bad-mouthing people who didn't take the USADA protocol.

"I'm against selective OST" - Tortilla Warrior, conveniently forgetting that the steroid tests used today in Nevada began in select bouts first before moving to championship bouts.

"random bull**** because I'm an idiot" - JAB5 or whatever the **** his name is.

Kid, you're the biggest moron on here. Do you ever talk about anything besides Pac-Floyd, and PED's? Quit your fucking whining, you tool.

1 dirty test for hgh in 8 years!

[brick wall]

Whatever, f*g. You aren't fooling everyone. Weren't you gonna make a thread on how he used "not so good" words against individuals who didn't use OSTs? Where is it? Just another bull**** artist trying to play the middle.

lmao how soon do you change your choice of words eh? i did started a thread you must've missed it...busy researching again? go back some pages you might find it. or check out my boxingscene fanpage to find the link...just don't forget to leave a message when you sign out

good night ***** i'll read your message tomorrow i have to sleep now it's already 1 am over here in my place

[shadeyfizzle]

That was for HGH.......not all PED's. Again people seem to be skewing fact to support inherently weak arguments. HGH is a relative new comer in terms of PED use in sport. The test for HGH has been recently synthesised. They weren't even sure it would work......now they have proof. Couple this with the fact there is a very small window with which the test is accurate it is indeed difficult to catch athletes using HGH.......expect it to happen more often.

Those guys you listed flunked for steroids or diuretics (post-fight i might add). The NSA does not test for HGH or EPO so they have 0% chance of catching anyone. USADA does test for HGH and EPO so they at least have a chance.

Additionally 0% = no deterrent in place.

So how exactly did Marion Jones get away with EPO usage??? By the way i like how floyd is wearin the zigtechs in your sig. Just got me a pair. comfortable as hell.

[check hook]

1 dirty test for hgh in 8 years? The experts are divided, the fight can be made if Floyd wants it. Now go dry your tears.

why don't you answer some of the questions i am *****g forward in this thread and the other one instead of acting like a petulant child whose mother took away the rattle?

That would be too much to ask wouldn't it???

Or pehaps you can't give any answers that amount to anything other than your usual incessant prattle

[IMDAZED]

Kid, you're the biggest moron on here. Do you ever talk about anything besides Pac-Floyd, and PED's? Quit your fucking whining, you tool.

1 dirty test for hgh in 8 years!

More random bull**** from this pimply-faced teen. Try harder. I bet you hear that a lot.

[IMDAZED]

lmao how soon do you change your choice of words eh? i did started a thread you must've missed it...busy researching again? go back some pages you might find it. or check out my boxingscene fanpage to find the link...just don't forget to leave a message when you sign out

good night ***** i'll read your message tomorrow i have to sleep now it's already 1 am over here in my place

In other words, you're a liar just like the man you so desperately defend. So much so that you'll even create stories for him . Later, f*g.