Urine TKOs blood in Nevada boxing drug testing debate

[check hook]

listen...ost or any other form of testing that is better than the current testing is very much acceptable. but for tygart, this guy should wait for his agency to get accredited or even considered before he opens his mouth. he was contracted by gbp and he's already acting like some authority in pro boxing. these alphabet bodies or state commissions, whether they're corrupt or not, they have something that usada doesn't have over pro boxing. it is what it is...and it's not an assurance that if tygart and usada will take over boxing testing/regulations corruption will be gone.

i didn't say it would be......it just seems to me everyone is quick to dismiss the idea of boxing outsourcing it's testing to an external body whose sole purpose in earning it's money is to test and test vigourously. What is the purpose of the commissions in earning their money....? To make money once the fight occurs?? Therein lies the rub my friend.

[Vasyl’s dad]

So it's worthless at an olympic level aswell.

So it's also worthless for Tour De France riders.


in short it's worthless to begin with???????


the testing covers 100% of participants. All 100% can be tested, practically thios occurs on a sliding scale.....it doesn't mean 100% will be tested, but they will sporadically test at the lower rungs to act as a deterrent to those thinking of circumventing the rules.

Again your argument and reasoning is fallacious.

If its not across the board for all competitors,

its worthless.


You're citing 100% of the participants being in the program.

Thats great, and I agree with that method.


But if not all the participants involved get scrutinized under the same program,

its worthless.


In the case for boxing as it is right now,

all boxers would not be participants in the program.


Those who participate in the Olympics and TDF,

are 100% a part of the program with no exceptions. How the agency decides who gets tested at that point is up to them, but the key is that all participants are a part of the same exact program.


Pretty easy to understand if you don't have Floyds balls in your throat.

and you have the audacity to claim my reasoning is fallacious. lo****ingl

[TheManniePhresh]

If its not across the board for all competitors,

its worthless.


You're citing 100% of the participants being in the program.

Thats great, and I agree with that method.


But if not all the participants involved get scrutinized under the same program,

its worthless.
gotcha your definitely against better drug testing and the current drug testing that couldnt catch mosley is perfect by your standards. thank you.

In the case for boxing as it is right now,

all boxers would not be participants in the program.


Those who participate in the Olympics and TDF,

are 100% a part of the program with no exceptions. How the agency decides who gets tested at that point is up to them, but the key is that all participants are a part of the same exact program.


Pretty easy to understand if you don't have Floyds balls in your throat.

and you have the audacity to claim my reasoning is fallacious. lo****ingl

gotcha your definitely against better drug testing and your completely for the current drug testing that couldnt catch mosley. thank you.

[Vasyl’s dad]

gotcha your definitely against better drug testing and your completely for the current drug testing that couldnt catch mosley. thank you.

I'm not against better drug testing at all.

I just don't feel it should be so selective.

You test one,

you test all.


The benefits of testing all,

you get a cleaner sport.

The benefits of testing a select few,


can't think of any, especially if one is clamoring for a cleaner sport.

[brick wall]

i didn't say it would be......it just seems to me everyone is quick to dismiss the idea of boxing outsourcing it's testing to an external body whose sole purpose in earning it's money is to test and test vigourously. What is the purpose of the commissions in earning their money....? To make money once the fight occurs?? Therein lies the rub my friend.

i am not dismissing that idea...i'm just tackling this issue with an open mind for every possibilities. i'm all for better testing but unlike you i'm not a pro tygart or pro usada...at least not yet. well, i'm not really against usada...it just so happen that they're being represented by a mouthy officer who can't wait to get his hands in pro boxing. this is not a simple process...this is about changing the whole system of testing and yet tygart and some people like you are already jumping into conclusions. how sure are you that tygart only wants to earn just enough money for the testing without business in mind?

[jai mari078]

Of course Tygart is gonna attack the comission and push his testing methods, he wants to get paid and anyone who doesn't see that is kidding themselves. This fool has dollar signs in his eyes. If Floyd wants to push this so hard the fee should come out of his pocket everytime he fights, and challenge the comission. Let him flip the bill constantly and see how fast his tune changes

[IMDAZED]

Look at them, fighting vehemently against tougher testing. You'd think the posters on here are taking roids themselves.

"Ohh that Tygert, he's just so bad!" - Brick Wall, who made up a lie yesterday about Tygert bad-mouthing people who didn't take the USADA protocol.

"I'm against selective OST" - Tortilla Warrior, conveniently forgetting that the steroid tests used today in Nevada began in select bouts first before moving to championship bouts.

"random bull**** because I'm an idiot" - JAB5 or whatever the **** his name is.

[brick wall]

Look at them, fighting vehemently against tougher testing. You'd think the posters on here are taking roids themselves.

"Ohh that Tygert, he's just so bad!" - Brick Wall, who made up a lie yesterday about Tygert bad-mouthing people who didn't take the USADA protocol.

what's up girl you missed me? who said tygart is bad-mouthing people? show me the link. i'm not gonna fall into your ****** traps. if you want me to be specific you gotta provide specifics too. you accused me of saying that a teaspoon of blood makes somebody weak...well show me the link to that thread. if you can't then i demand that you retract your statement...olympic style and no cut-off

[shadeyfizzle]

gotcha your definitely against better drug testing and your completely for the current drug testing that couldnt catch mosley. thank you.

Better testing??? of the thousands of athletes it tests usada has caught 1 rugby player in 8 years. And they certainly dropped the ball on that marion jones incident.

NSAC has caught Funeka, Chavez jr, Nino, Jones, Toney, Vargas, plus several others in just the past 8

[IMDAZED]

what's up girl you missed me? who said tygart is bad-mouthing people? show me the link. i'm not gonna fall into your ****** traps. if you want me to be specific you gotta provide specifics too. you accused me of saying that a teaspoon of blood makes somebody weak...well show me the link to that thread. if you can't then i demand that you retract your statement...olympic style and no cut-off

Whatever, f*g. You aren't fooling everyone. Weren't you gonna make a thread on how he used "not so good" words against individuals who didn't use OSTs? Where is it? Just another bull**** artist trying to play the middle.