Was Erik Morales in his prime for the 2nd and 3rd Pac fights?

[IMDAZED]

Honestly I don't remember it that way. The 3rd fight was totally unnecessary. However, pior to the Erik Morales rematch, Pacquiao hadn't done anything at 130 that would warrent a jump up to 135 to fight Raheem. He was 1-1 at 130 before the Morales rematch and hadn't proved anything yet to move up in wieght.

No one was asking Pac to move to 135. No one was asking for a Morales rematch except his diehards who'd cheer him on if he fought Ricardo Lopez. Ask yourself...why did Morales go up to 135 in the first place?

[mikemurni]

If you'd like to discuss a particular fight of Floyd's feel free to create a thread about it. I'm not on this thread to discuss this because it is absolutely irrelevant. I'm not discrediting Manny because Morales was past his prime. Morales wasn't past his prime, he was at the end of his career and was a badly weight drained fighter. And it showed in his performance. Take from that what you will. If you think it was a great win, more power to you. I think it was a good win, nothing more. Especially since, in his last fight, he had been outboxed, outbrawled and basically embarrassed by Zahir Raheem.

Outbrawled by Zahir?? He was outboxed, Morales was baiting Zahir but Zahir would rather do a stick and jab the whole fight...They should be thankful that Pac was in the undercards because that fight was snoozer..

Morales was past his prime goin' in to the second fight and Pac ended his career after knocking him out in the rematch and the rubbermatch .

[victorythagr8]

Ok, I had no idea. And personally, I thought Floyd's 2006 was one of his weakest years ever.

You are admitting that Pac cherry-picked. Sorry but Morales got his a** kicked by Raheem. That's that.

that is funny because you forgot the part that Raheem and Morales fought a Light weight and pacquaio didn't fight at light weight until 2008 for diaz. **** pacquaio was only 1-1 at 130 at the time.

[IMDAZED]

Outbrawled by Zahir?? He was outboxed, Morales was baiting Zahir but Zahir would rather do a stick and jab the whole fight...They should be thankful that Pac was in the undercards because that fight was snoozer..

Morales was past his prime goin' in to the second fight and Pac ended his career after knocking him out in the rematch and the rubbermatch .

Ok, so in other words you agree with the TS.

[cortdawg25]

no one was asking pac to move to 135. No one was asking for a morales rematch except his diehards who'd cheer him on if he fought ricardo lopez. Ask yourself...why did morales go up to 135 in the first place?

it's useless....morales was in prime despite wars with mab and a shalacking from raheem. Pacquiao fought the best morales in all 3 fights. There no convincing them otherwise!

[IMDAZED]

that is funny because you forgot the part that Raheem and Morales fought a Light weight and pacquaio didn't fight at light weight until 2008 for diaz. **** pacquaio was only 1-1 at 130 at the time.

I do remember the part where Morales begged for a catchweight of 132 because he couldn't make 130. And instead got hit with the unprecedented weight infraction penalty fee .

[ADP02]

Some posters think he was.

Hell he wasnt even prime in the first fight.

If you want to discredit Manny vs Morales because Morales was not in his prime then you might as well discredit Floyd's last 6 years minimum!!!

Shane Mosley: Old (39), rusty(1.5 year layoff) - WAY PASSED HIS PRIME - Discredit

Juan Manuel Marquez: Not a Welterweight, passed his prime, a joke of a fight - Discredit

Ricky Hatton - No notable good wins at WW yet Floyd has him fight at WW - Discredit

Oscar De La Hoya - focused on Golden Boys - Past his prime - Discredit

Carlos Baldomir - Need I say more! Won against a lacklustre Judah - Discredit

Zab Judah - Just lost to Baldomir - was better at lower weight classes - Discredit

Sharmba Mitchell - past prime - had some success at lower weight classes - Discredit

Gatti - Way out of his prime - had too many wars - lost to Oscar easily - Discredit

Henry Bruseles - Discredit


I can go on but that's what Floyd has to show for since 2005. Total discredit according the logic put forth in this thread.

[mikemurni]

No one was asking Pac to move to 135. No one was asking for a Morales rematch except his diehards who'd cheer him on if he fought Ricardo Lopez. Ask yourself...why did Morales go up to 135 in the first place?

Morales always had problems making weight in any fights in the past. I mean he had weight issues as early as the 122 against Barrera (first fight). But his limit was definitely at SFW. He was never goin' to be a good LW. He looked slow and bloated at LW.

[Khalid X]

Morales was shot to pieces bro. Can we be serious for a minute here.

Bro just let it go. Manny won fighter of the decade by a landslide for a reason. You guys say the award is crap, OK fine....we get it, but why my constant threads indirectly implying Floyd should have won it? It doesn't make sense to me at all.

Due to my bro, and main dog on here, Tamis, I have held back form replying to these threads, but not anymore. You guys just awoke a sleeping giant....lol

*puts on fatigues and prepares for war*

[P. Rick]

No one was asking Pac to move to 135.

Then why should he have fought Raheem? He stayed at 130 where he belonged and took out the number 2 guy in the division.

No one was asking for a Morales rematch except his diehards who'd cheer him on if he fought Ricardo Lopez.

There were many skeptics wether they were Morales fans, Pacquiao haters, **** riders, that thought style wise Morales had Pac's number.

Ask yourself...why did Morales go up to 135 in the first place?

Because he was drained. I'm not saying it was a great win. I'm agreeing with what you said earlier that it was a good win.