Was Erik Morales in his prime for the 2nd and 3rd Pac fights?

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  • Khalid X
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    #121
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    @ people worried about the next man's moment. Like Pac's day is ruined cuz he reads NSB. Lord have mercy.
    you right, Pac is more than likely chilling living it up. My concern are the people who sit around and hate on the man all day. **** is disturbing and very unhealthy.

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      #122
      Originally posted by -Top Rank-
      my biggest problem in all of this is that you guys won't let Pac have his moment to save your lives and it looks pathetic. Man It's like watching a little kid get mad that someone took a toy he never played with or ever had any interest in. Only thing is ya'll are grown men displaying this childish, hateful behavior....smh
      lmao do you honestly expect anything different from them? i mean c'mon one of these guys have always picked against pac and had been the laughing stock of the forums for months, maybe years. another would just keep looking for holes, if he can't find any, he'll try to make one. it's like every single win pac gets credit for is deducted from their paycheck it's hilarious.

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        #123
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        I don't believe he was elite at all. The last time he looked elite was against Pac the first time - like Jones versus Ruiz it was all downhill from there. He never looked elite again. beginning with Raheem. End of story.
        Their 2nd fight was a fight of the year candidate behind Coralles-Castillo II.. An elite fighter could have never fought that way against a top fighter if he was not elite himself.

        Losing to Raheem at a higher division makes him a bad LW. He was in the P4P list even after losing to Raheem because he fought in a weight class that was still unknown for him.

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          #124
          Originally posted by -Top Rank-
          you right, Pac is more than likely chilling living it up. My concern are the people who sit around and hate on the man all day. **** is disturbing and very unhealthy.
          I'm sure those people are glad you're concerened, O.S.I.R.I.S.

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            #125
            Originally posted by mikemurni
            Their 2nd fight was a fight of the year candidate behind Coralles-Castillo II.. An elite fighter could have never fought that way against a top fighter if he was not elite himself.

            Losing to Raheem at a higher division makes him a bad LW. He was in the P4P list even after losing to Raheem because he fought in a weight class that was still unknown for him.
            See my previous post regarding Morales' performance. Roy Jones started strong against Joe Calzaghe too. Anyway, at best, Morales was past his prime. At worse? Well...he was worse.

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              #126
              copied and pasted for truth.........


              Bro I'm a huge Morales fan as well and he wasn't shot in the second fight. That is the biggest crock of **** I have ever heard. Was he at his absolute best? Absolutely not, because his absolute peak was at 122 and then 126. You can say the same for Pac because he wasn't at his peak either.

              People think too much in extremes. If your not at your absolute peak, then you must be shot, or past your prime.....leaving no room in the middle. Boxing has never been like that, and it's only this new generation of fans that are on this garbage

              FWIW I'm a long time Morales fans, and I know just about every hard core Morales fan on this site and none of them says he was shot in the second fight. Was he at his absolute best....no, and for reason I mentioned above. People act like if you aren't at your peak then you are ****. Boxing has never worked like that....hence us seeing guys who aren't at their ideal weight or age and still put on career defining performances.

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                #127
                Originally posted by IMDAZED
                I'm sure those people are glad you're concerened, O.S.I.R.I.S.
                If you mean Top Rank and Manny, of course they are. I'm the voice box for them on NSB....

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by -Top Rank-
                  copied and pasted for truth.........


                  Bro I'm a huge Morales fan as well and he wasn't shot in the second fight. That is the biggest crock of **** I have ever heard. Was he at his absolute best? Absolutely not, because his absolute peak was at 122 and then 126. You can say the same for Pac because he wasn't at his peak either.

                  People think too much in extremes. If your not at your absolute peak, then you must be shot, or past your prime.....leaving no room in the middle. Boxing has never been like that, and it's only this new generation of fans that are on this garbage

                  FWIW I'm a long time Morales fans, and I know just about every hard core Morales fan on this site and none of them says he was shot in the second fight. Was he at his absolute best....no, and for reason I mentioned above. People act like if you aren't at your peak then you are ****. Boxing has never worked like that....hence us seeing guys who aren't at their ideal weight or age and still put on career defining performances.
                  "Was El Terrible in his prime for the 2nd and 3rd Pac fights?"


                  That is what the poll and thread title is asking.

                  1st Fight: Past it

                  2nd fight: Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy past it

                  3rd fight: Shot to pieces.

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                    #129
                    Originally posted by -Top Rank-
                    copied and pasted for truth.........


                    Bro I'm a huge Morales fan as well and he wasn't shot in the second fight. That is the biggest crock of **** I have ever heard. Was he at his absolute best? Absolutely not, because his absolute peak was at 122 and then 126. You can say the same for Pac because he wasn't at his peak either.

                    People think too much in extremes. If your not at your absolute peak, then you must be shot, or past your prime.....leaving no room in the middle. Boxing has never been like that, and it's only this new generation of fans that are on this garbage

                    FWIW I'm a long time Morales fans, and I know just about every hard core Morales fan on this site and none of them says he was shot in the second fight. Was he at his absolute best....no, and for reason I mentioned above. People act like if you aren't at your peak then you are ****. Boxing has never worked like that....hence us seeing guys who aren't at their ideal weight or age and still put on career defining performances.
                    That's cute but the TS isn't asking if Morales was shot. He asked if Morales was past his prime. Check. Was he weight drained? Check. Was he coming off an embarrassing loss? Check.

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by No Ceilings
                      "Was El Terrible in his prime for the 2nd and 3rd Pac fights?"


                      That is what the poll and thread title is asking.

                      2nd fight: Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy past it

                      3rd fight: Shot to pieces.


                      In his rush to defend his heroes honor, O.S.I.R.I.S. made a tiny oversight

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