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~Floyd and Manny Pacquiao: FOTD Year by Year~
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Originally posted by Tamis_Siensya View PostFor the last time...(my breakdown won't matter even)
Floyd retired for 2 years, if he didn't retire, he would've gotten the award.
It's funny people forgot that bit.
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Originally posted by mikemurni View Post2000 - Floyd
2001- Floyd
2002- Floyd
2003- Pac
2004- Pac
2005- Pac
2006- Pac
2007- Floyd
2008- Pac
2009-Pac
2001 and 2002 are Floyd's dominant years in terms of competition. You may want to add 2007 as well. But I consider 2007 more of a year when Floyd burst out in the mainstream which also makes it his most profitable year.
2003 is definitely for Pac. It was the year he got his status as one of the sport's rising stars after an upset win over then P4P#3 Barrera.
Floyd had only one fight in 2004 so you cant give that year for him. Pac fought a prime JMM to a draw in what consider to be a contender for fight of the year. It certainly trumphs his win over a good Corley, who in my opinion is nothing more than a tune-up. Pac also had a tune-up against Fahsan so that already offsets Floyd's win against Chop Chop.
If you gave 2005 to Floyd, I wouldn't object although you have to consider that Pac was also in a FOTY against Morales even though he lost. But if you put more weight on Floyd's win against Gatti over Pac's loss in a FOTY against Morales then its reasonable as well.
Giving 2006 to Floyd is just ******ed since Pac was fighter of the year (BWAA and Ring) in 2006 with his two victories against Morales. Most boxing writers were already even considering in moving him up to P4P#1 status in that time due to Floyd's recent competition in 2005 and 2006, where people perceived that it was the time he started cherry picking his opponents.
2007 - this year definitely belongs to Floyd
2008/2009 - Floyd retired and inactive so you have to give that to Pac. It is also the year when Pac burst out in the mainstream, and his most profitable years.
Pac 6, Floyd 4
Pac was fighter of the year in 2006, 2008, 2009
Floyd was fighter of the year in 2002 and 2007.
How can you give only 3 years to Pac when he was already awarded fighter of the year 3 times, which meant he was the best in terms of competitions in those years. You have to add 2004 and 2003 because clearly Pac edged Floyd in those years.
If you gave 2005 to Floyd I wont mind. So at best Floyd can only get a draw against Pac if you want to break it down year per year.
For 2006, Yes pacquiao was fighter of the year, but much wasn’t expected of him. Afterall, he was avenging a loss against a faded Morales. The allure of Morales was still there despite getting his butt handed to him by raheem. People thought he would give it to pacquiao again just like he did after losing to MAB. U say it is ******ed to give Floyd that year but who else in recent memory has beat the fomer undisputed champ and linear champ in consecutive fights. Without bias and simply off accomplishments….that is Floyd’s year hands down. Oscar realized that, why did you think he gave Floyd a shot!
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Originally posted by madsweeney View PostGood point. Some people can only see in black and white. Fact of the matter is on most of these years the difference between pac and floyd's quality of fights is a minor edge. Also in this breakdown, Pac fighting trilogies with MAB and EM affect him negatively when it should do the opposite.
I also dont see closing the trilogy with Erik on the same year affected him in fact he won FOTY on that year and elevated his status even more on the P4P standing ...
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Originally posted by Mr. Chago View PostThen you mean PAC got it because PBF retired, not because he accomplished more by himself...
Like i said thru my past posts, yeah Floyd retired, but we have yet to conclude WHAT COULD'VE HE DONE at that period if he didn't retire, to win that award, and prolly improve his resume. I dunno, battle Marg, Cotto, etc.
As of the moment, don't get it wrong, but Pac's achievements skyrockets over Floyd's, that's why he's FOTD.
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Originally posted by Tamis_Siensya View PostNot so fast...
Like i said thru my past posts, yeah Floyd retired, but we have yet to conclude WHAT COULD'VE HE DONE at that period if he didn't retire, to win that award, and prolly improve his resume. I dunno, battle Marg, Cotto, etc.
As of the moment, don't get it wrong, but Pac's achievements skyrockets over Floyd's, that's why he's FOTD.no1
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Originally posted by feefiflofum View Posttrue that, whos' the 1 fighter on FLOYD's resume at 130 that is even on par with MAB and ERIK..no1
It doesn't mean when I say that Floyd retired that's why Manny got FOTD, but people need not forget to factor in what Floyd could've done in the period he didn't retire and make him FOTD.
What sucks is he seems bitter at Pac getting the award, as if he's not accountable for his own actions LOL!Last edited by Tamis!; 06-01-2010, 12:05 PM.
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Originally posted by cortdawg25 View PostGenaro hernandez, Diego corrales......neither Morales nor MAb could have beaten them!and of course they would theyre not even in the same WEIGHT class at their peaks doofus
Last edited by feefiflofum; 06-01-2010, 11:54 AM.
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Originally posted by feefiflofum View Postyou heard it here first.. ***** says diego and hernandez is greater than MAB AND ERIKand of course they would theyre not even in the same class in their peaks doofus
U betta go watch some tape of Genaro!! and Corrales would have Koed both of them.
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