Its amazing how Floyd's workrate has reduced since 130 lbs

[EMACULATE]

It baffles me that you can critique someone who is undefeated and takes cares of himself, finacially, mentally and physically. How often have you seen Floyd bleeding and swelling. Thats because he doesnt open up to get countered and stunned. The name of the game is win at all cost and im sure his style has prolonged his career and he only has a short time left at his current status, but when he retires if hes smart he will be able to live a fruitful life. Long as he doesnt stick around to long. Maybe the other fighters whom once they step up to the top caliber and get bruised and battered should watch more of Floyd or Pernell and there defense. We fans want the blood and guts but we never think of the pain and torment that the fighters go through when its all said and done.

[SCEN3RY]

Williams beating Floyd is a joke.

Williams is a freak show - nothing more nothing less. He will never be an elite fighter like Floyd.

I do agree that Floyd should throw more punches. It's crazy to think how many punches he could land if he threw over 1000 punches in a 12 round fight.

Floyd throwing more would open him up for punches on the receiving end - its the basics of boxing, when you extend your arm outwards you expose an area of your body. Nonetheless, Floyd's workrate is based on accuracy and defense...nothing really else to debate about it...

[Kilrain]

It baffles me that you can critique someone who is undefeated and takes cares of himself, finacially, mentally and physically. How often have you seen Floyd bleeding and swelling. Thats because he doesnt open up to get countered and stunned. The name of the game is win at all cost and im sure his style has prolonged his career and he only has a short time left at his current status, but when he retires if hes smart he will be able to live a fruitful life. Long as he doesnt stick around to long. Maybe the other fighters whom once they step up to the top caliber and get bruised and battered should watch more of Floyd or Pernell and there defense. We fans want the blood and guts but we never think of the pain and torment that the fighters go through when its all said and done.

Lol takes care of himself financially. The reason Floyd returned to boxing after his retirement post-Hatton is cause he blew tens of millions of dollars on bad investments/reckless living/********. Hardly taking care of himself financially.

Anyway I agree with ur point about ppl being negative....end of the day the point is valid, Floyd is less busy, but it's cause of his efficiency, he can beat a man without exerting himself too much

[master_rose]

Its amazing how Floyd's workrate has reduced since 130 lbs. I mean floyd used to be a monster, but now he throws way below the WW average. He's so inactive in the ring that volume punchers like pwill can beat him.

just go back to the diego corrales (R.I.P.) fight. he was throwing tons of punches from all kinds of angles. Eventually he stopped diego.

now look at the dlh fight. floyd barely threw any punches at all and the fight went to a split decision. if floyd just let his hands go more, he would've won by a wider margin.

Its sad to see such a great boxer reduce his workrate and become a boring boxer. Floyd was at his best at 130 lbs. He was a spectacular boxer then. At 130 lbs, without reducing his punch output, he could've stopped JMM.

Floyd needs to get his punch stats up. that's a glaring whole in his game.

he connects between 45-60% of his shots... enough said.

[Pullcounter]

he connects between 45-60% of his shots... enough said.

his workrate had dropped off significantly since 130 lbs. floyd used to be an offensive juggernaut, now you'll be lucky to see him put 3 punch combos together.

[SweetPbfAli]

yep. I mean its strange how floyd retired exactly when he should've fought margo, cotto, and mosley. instead he waited for them all to bash each other's brains out, and then he made his comeback.

strange indeed.

Smart! There was no way he could've went through all them fighters and satisfied everyone and be healthy. Cotto is a prime example of why you shouldn't fight too many tough fights in succession. Floyd let them knock each other off and let the media build up one great fighter for him to comeback and knock off, only to retire again. You might not like it but it was absolutely the smartest move to make.

[ADP02]

Come on, Winky was coming off of a long layoff and sat in his shell all night, and Quintana is nowhere NEAR the level of Floyd (yet he did beat Williams the first time). Martinez on the other hand gave Williams a lot of problems and made it a very close fight because Williams' punches weren't going anywhere and he was paying for his mistakes all night. Floyd is a better boxer than Martinez, so I can really see him breaking P.Will down and winning a decision.

Hmmm, Winky had a long layoff...... I was waiting for that....... very true but everytime I mention that Mosley had ring rust, I don't ever hear a Floyd fan say it's true, Floyd fought an old rusty Mosley.

Back to Williams: Yes, Williams had trouble fighting a slick ackward Quintana......... but what happened with fight #2? He learnt from fight # 1 and finished Quintana.

As for Martinez against Williams, that was a great fight and yes he gave Williams trouble. Still Williams won and put another lesson learnt in the bank. Remember that Martinez is taller and appears to have better power than Floyd so that may give Martinez that extra edge against Williams.

Also notice something? Both Martinez and Quintana are southpaws. Those boxers are a special breed that can give anyone fits. Just like Manny can give anyone fits. Some boxers have an easier time adjusting to them than others. Floyd is not a southpaw!

Again, if Williams can improve on some of his technique(flaws), he would give Floyd a ton of problems. Williams can punch thru Floyd's roll the shoulder defense because he is tall enough to just go over Floyd's rolling shoulder defense. Shorter opponents often would bounce their right hand off of Floyd's shoulder. NOT WITH WILLIAMS! This is a major advantage for Williams.

[Phil Ivey]

I think its because he has had ongoing problems with his hands in the past. You saw what happened when he injured his hands against Castillo, he struggled quite a bit.

[dc3383]

Floyd is smarter and better now even though some ofhis natural attributes are fading.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Its called moving up in weight and getting older.