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  • Thread Stealer
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    #111
    Originally posted by ILLuminato
    Mayweather didn't ruin Ricky Hatton. Margarito didn't ruin Miguel Cotto.

    Julio Cesar Chavez did ruin Meldrick Taylor.
    Taylor had better wins and performances post-Chavez than Hatton after Mayweather, and Cotto so far post-Margarito.

    If those two don't count, then neither should Chavez-Taylor 1.
    Last edited by Thread Stealer; 05-30-2010, 05:52 PM.

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    • HandSpeed303
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      #112
      Originally posted by kedashy
      dark destroyer really did destroy gerald... and douglas certainly took tyson invincibility from him...
      I really don't think that fight should count. I mean what happened after the fight was based on a lot of dirty tactics, and a bunch of rules that were overlooked.

      The fight should have been stooped twice in G-mans favor.

      Gerald is my all time favorite fighter, so I may be a bit biased.

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      • BoxerDood
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        #113
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        A prime Campbell has always been inconsistent. He fought on the level of his opponents. Look at his fights with Campbell, Kid Diamond, and Juan Diaz. All fights he ws the underdog in. Then look at his fights with Peden 2x and Hlatswayo. And, is not like the Hlatswayo fight was not close.

        I mean Ndou had a record of 3-2 (3KO's) at LW. That was his LW record. His 3 winc came from fighters I have never heard of.

        his only win of note in his entire career was Cassius Baloyi at SFW. He really had no notable wins, never beat a champ, he just hadn't done anything really to say he was ruined by Floyd. I don't think he was that special to begin with. I don't know what elite SFW or LW at the time I would of favored Ndou in beating
        Good point about Campbell being inconsistent. But N'Dou's fight against Hlatschwayo was close too. It was down to like single points and could have went either way. But Floyd gave him brain damage and messed up his career, so we never got to see how he'd turn out. I'm not saying he'd be elite, but he was ruined. He had to take a four year layoff. And I think the fact that he was able to take that much time off, then come back two weight classes higher and still be very competitve against Lovemore N'Dou shows that he was a pretty good fighter.

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        • Miburo
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          #114
          As I'm seeing many terrible posts, here's a fairly extensive list of some modern examples:

          Chavez-Taylor
          Hopkins-Taylor
          Hopkins-Tarver
          Hopkins-Mercado
          Hopkins-Trinidad (notice a trend?)
          Tarver-Jones
          Toney-Jirov
          Holmes-Cooney
          Calzaghe-Lacy
          Trinidad-Vargas
          Margarito-Cotto (possibly)
          Barrera-Hamed
          Last edited by Miburo; 05-30-2010, 07:20 PM.

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            #115
            I don't think Hopkins ruined Taylor. Taylor just fought better opposition against fighters who could show his weaknesses.

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            • Too_Slick
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              #116
              Miguel Cotto Via Antonio Margarito Via Miguel Cotto

              Fernando Vargas Via Shane Mosley

              Diego Corrales Via Jose Luis Castilo Via Diego Corrales

              Meldrick Taylor Via Julio Cesar Chavez

              Juan Diaz Via Juan Manuel Marquez

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              • e_boxer
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                #117
                Z gorres to Luis Melendez
                Rey "boom boom " bautista to ponce de leon although I think they were just bums
                Last edited by e_boxer; 05-30-2010, 05:50 PM.

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                • FeFist
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by e_boxer
                  Z gorres to Luis Melendez
                  Rey "boom boom " bautista to ponce de leon although I think they were just bums
                  I remember so Bautista getting a lot of hype then he got sparked out.

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                  • e_boxer
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by FeFist
                    I remember so Bautista getting a lot of hype then he got sparked out.
                    The next paquiao as I remember lol over hyped def and exposed specially getting caught by a sloppy puncher like ponce

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                    • guerrerosoul
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                      #120
                      Margarito ruin Cotto,

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