Is Mayweather the quickest AND most "accurate" boxer in history?

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  • TyrantT316
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    #21
    umn, of course their competition blows Floyd's out of the water at this stage...Floyd's career isn't over

    I think you guys are misunderstanding my post...I never called Floyd greater than the others...I never said he would beat all of them...I am just comparing the overall combination of speed and accuracing saying that a lot of fast fighters threw fast combinations, but they were more "round stealing" flurries where most missed...and comparing that to Floyd who throws combinations almost as fast but his are more timed and most of them land...

    this has nothing to do with greatness...just a plain attribute of a fighter...

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      #22
      Originally posted by hectari
      ^have you seen the tapes of pep? his style would get exposed by mayweather his style was more primitive boxers have advanced now if you don't believe me oh well! The only reason people get mad is because pep and wilde are legends! they fought the fighters of their time and their style was more advanced for their age and the fighters they fought were they as advanced? NO! The olden times fighters or throwbacks have one thing in common that alot of young fighters dont have anymore that is HEART and will to take punishment.
      oh come on.
      great fighters are great fighters, they would have the modern training techniques et al.

      if you honestly think mayweather would beat pep at say super feather you are sadly deluded mate. **** me hge just beat gatti...a man who had life and death struggles with Mickey ward, get real mate.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Yogi
        When Mayweather goes undefeated in his first 65 (or so) fights or wins all but one of his first 135 (or so) fights, then you can start mentioning his name alongside the greatest defensive fighter of all-time in Willie Pep. Oh, and the vast majority of Pep's wins were against a combination of hall-of-famers, champions, or top contenders of the day. His overall competition ****ing BLOWS Mayweather's out of the water.

        And what's with this "far superior advances in boxing" comment?

        ^how many videos you seen of pep? were you alive back then? I saw the pep vs saddler and he got hit alot and his style was left open for someone with super fast quickness like floyd. Did you see how they boxed? did anyone counter punch as solid and juan manuel marquez or floyd mayweather jr??? he is advanced, the reason he nearly lost the castillo fight the first time was because he never WATCHS tapes of his fighters! I bet he watched and studied castillo the 2nd time.

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          #24
          Originally posted by J !
          oh come on.
          great fighters are great fighters, they would have the modern training techniques et al.

          if you honestly think mayweather would beat pep at say super feather you are sadly deluded mate. **** me hge just beat gatti...a man who had life and death struggles with Mickey ward, get real mate.

          Yes he would beat willie pep! it is my opinion, not taking anything away from pep.

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            #25
            hilarious
            http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=000043

            230 wins 11 losses (most of whic were after his plane crash and 3 of those were to number 2 all time best featherweight Sandy saddler who would have launched mayweather into space i hastn to add).

            And you guys are going crazy on this board cos he beat Gatti who has only ever bene a great entertainer and warrior?


            come on now. **** me.
            Last edited by J !; 06-27-2005, 11:25 AM.

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              #26
              Originally posted by TyrantT316
              umn, of course their competition blows Floyd's out of the water at this stage...Floyd's career isn't over

              I think you guys are misunderstanding my post...I never called Floyd greater than the others...I never said he would beat all of them...I am just comparing the overall combination of speed and accuracing saying that a lot of fast fighters threw fast combinations, but they were more "round stealing" flurries where most missed...and comparing that to Floyd who throws combinations almost as fast but his are more timed and most of them land...

              this has nothing to do with greatness...just a plain attribute of a fighter...
              "ahem...."

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                #27
                Originally posted by J !
                oh come on.
                great fighters are great fighters, they would have the modern training techniques et al.

                if you honestly think mayweather would beat pep at say super feather you are sadly deluded mate. **** me hge just beat gatti...a man who had life and death struggles with Mickey ward, get real mate.
                I wonder what some of these guys would think if they ever saw Hector Camacho's display of speed, punching accuracy, and domination against Bazooka Limon, which was slightly more impressive than Mayweather's recent display on Saturday night (and against an opponent at least of Gatti's equal).

                I don't hear Camacho's name being mentioned alongside the greatest legends of the sport, do you?

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                • J !
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                  #28
                  yogi mate sometimes i feel like im ****ing my head on a wall.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by J !
                    hilarious
                    http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=000043

                    230 wins 11 losses (most of whic were after his plane crash and 3 of those were to number 2 all time best featherweight Sandy saddler who would have launched mayweather into space i hastn to add).

                    And you guys are going crazy on this board cos he beat Gatti who has only ever bene a great entertainer and warrior?


                    come on now. **** me.

                    You are illogical! Just because he beat gatti?hahah wtf? how dumb you act like we are ******. Mayweather has been great before gatti! so many people recognize his gifts even maxboxing write doug fischer who is a fan of willie pep and historian says Floyd is the most gifted and smart fighter he has ever seen!


                    The gatti vs mayweather fight was a fight showing a guy GATTI who would be a LEGEND in the 1940s and 50s getting took apart by a quick jab and defensive skills and combos. I will tell you gatti is a throwback his style is how they used to fight back then!

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                    • Yogi
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by J !
                      yogi mate sometimes i feel like im ****ing my head on a wall.
                      Dude, it always happens!

                      A modern fighter puts on an excellant display of boxing skills and so many fans are quick to jump on the wagon and proclaim that fighter/display up there in the "all-time" or "greatest ever" categories (Mayweaher does deserve props, but...*shakes head*)

                      Just ride it out for a little while.

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