Reasonable doubt....PEDs

[brick wall]

So will you shut your mouth with all the BS excuses and Pacquiao-apologizing until he does take the tests? I see a lot of you Pacquiao fanatics saying that you hope he takes the tests, but I see none of you questioning why he's not taking the tests. You all only question Mayweather about his motives and whatnot. Quite telling.

i never made up excuses for pac what are you talking about? i hope he takes the test...that's the best i can do. if only i have the power to dictate what he does then i would have spanked his ass and tell him to take the test. that way we would have been spared of all these *****s endless speculations and dumb peds threads.

[cixthree]

what about it? is it that important for me to know and do i really have to comment?

To be honest its not, but I thought you mite have an op on it is all. I mean id assume you'd think Arum was pretty credable since you defend Team Pac.
Just putting it out there if you didn't know

[thatnickuh]

i never made up excuses for pac what are you talking about? i hope he takes the test...that's the best i can do. if only i have the power to dictate what he does then i would have spanked his ass and tell him to take the test. that way we would have been spared of all these *****s endless speculations and dumb peds threads.

Continuing to harp on Mayweather's motives for asking for stricter testing and making an issue out of the fact that none of his other opponents have been randomly blood tested, is making excuses for Pacquiao. None of that is relevant, you're just trying to cloud the issue. The issue is that Pacquiao is refusing random blood testing and it looks supicious. You say that you wish that he would take the tests, but do you question why he's not taking the test? Or do you just accept one his numerous excuses for not taking agreeing?

[AFighter4U]

TS is Khan taking PEDs? all indications say so.

1. fighting at a heavier division 140lbs(use to fight at 135lbs)
2. throws more punches and seems not to tire.
3. looks bigger than the time he lose to Prescott
4. he hurt Malignaggi more than what Cotto or Hatton have done before.

Yet no one is crying foul.

If Khan is clean so is Pac they both have the same trainer and conditioning coach. Both became winners under them.

[ModernTalking]

Manny Pacquiao is the Fighter Of The Decade = fact

Floyd Mayweather isn't the Fighter Of The Decade = fact

Floyd Mayweather is hella jealous of Manny Pacquiao = fact

[cixthree]

Another hater crying thread.

You're 35? 35, a Pac rules and a possable ****** pic on your page? Wow.
If it ain't your girl then what's the point?what are u looking to prove by putting a girls pic up that 1 ul never meet 2 ur not hittin that and 3 you never will. Funny

[jrosales13]

Ok, now you're comming with op/assumptions. Is it fact that Manny has learned to show he's not hurt? Its a fact he said he was hurt, but doesn't being hit hurt anyway?
Hurt/wobbled, so what was he in his lower weight fights, hurt or wobbled? Cause I didn't /haven't seen any of that sinse he's gone up.

Of course it is assumptions and opinions. That is the whole point. They're not facts they're opinions. And, wobbled or getting dropped does not necessary hurt. Again 3 and 5 opinion. And, if you don't know the difference between opinion and facts then this conversation is moot.

[jrosales13]

Why are you getting upset, just take them one by one and prove them wrong with ur own facts. It is what it is man, no need to blow up

Because, I am tired of all these dumbass post. Who is to say Pac got faster. Don't tell me Pac is faster now then he was as a featherweight. He might look faster in the ring cuz he is beating slower guys then the ones they're were at featherweight.

LHW's shouldn't be faster than WW's, WW's shouldn't be faster than featherweighs, featherweights shouldn't be faster than flyweights. Saying that Manny is faster like that idiot did. Is not true.

[thatnickuh]

Of course it is assumptions and opinions. That is the whole point. They're not facts they're opinions. And, wobbled or getting dropped does not necessary hurt. Again 3 and 5 opinion. And, if you don't know the difference between opinion and facts then this conversation is moot.

You're funny. You're up here arguing my man down over semantics, yet when someone makes valid points that you can't refute you run and hide. Stop being petty man.

[Boxin']

1. His trainer is known to train fighters while "knowing" they are juiced (fact)..
2. His strength coach "Manny has no idea what he takes" (fact)..
3. He has gained double the stamina in just one years time. (Fact)..
4. He refuses to comply with FULL RANDOM blood and urine testing. (Fact)
5. He was very good in the lower weights, pushed when faced with elites, rocked/wobbled in a number of lower weight matches. But has not been rocked/wobbled/hurt by bigger stronger men in the upper weight div. And has even allowed one of the hardest body punchers at 147 to freely go to his body, while up against the ropes. He's been knocked out by a body shot before. (Fact)

His promoter, while promoting Oscar early is now asking Oscar to sign a release waiver. A waiver that will unseal test results from his past fights. The promoter is quoted as saying "I know when it happend and how many times"
Question: if he knew, then why did he allow it? If he knew then and allowed it, who's to say he's not doing the same thing with his current cash cow?

If any of what I've put out is false then let me know. There is so much reasonable doubt here, and most if not all fair jurys would raise a brow to these facts.

you are ******ed...