Reasonable doubt....PEDs

[Allucard]

3 or 5 are not facts they're opinions.

Yes but everyone would agree with them, not controversial at all. Everyone knows fighters are not supposed to grow stronger and faster as they move up. Manny did.

[cixthree]

so what if roach once trained a fighter who used peds...for example toney? are you trying to say roach forcefully shoved the peds up toney's ass? using peds is a fighter's personal decision not the trainer. all this roach has history of peds is just a dumb speculation by dumb people.

But its a link. People use Srs past to discredit him, why not use Freddys also? Its not the matter of it being the fighters choice, it is and I agree. But how can we take a mans word that has knowingly trained fighters while juiced?

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[jrosales13]

Yes but everyone would agree with them, not controversial at all. Everyone knows fighters are not supposed to grow stronger and faster as they move up. Manny did.

Are you a fucking idiot? THOSE ARE NOT FACTS THEY'RE OPINIONS.

[cixthree]

3 or 5 are not facts they're opinions.

Ok I'll give you 3, but 5!? Come on man, that happend. We all saw that

[jrosales13]

Ok I'll give you 3, but 5!? Come on man, that happend. We all saw that

You said he has not been hurt at a higher weight-class. He said he got hurt by Cotto. I mean Hopkins been hurt also. Sometimes you learn on how not to show that you're hurt. Getting hurt and getting wobbled is two different things. Wobbled can be caused by bad balance.

Again, is not a fact is an opinion.

[brick wall]

But its a link. People use Srs past to discredit him, why not use Freddys also? Its not the matter of it being the fighters choice, it is and I agree. But how can we take a mans word that has knowingly trained fighters while juiced?

so floyd is a drug user/dealer too because his father/trainer has history with illegal drugs? you want me to use that link on your idol?

[cixthree]

Are you a fucking idiot? THOSE ARE NOT FACTS THEY'RE OPINIONS.

Why are you getting upset, just take them one by one and prove them wrong with ur own facts. It is what it is man, no need to blow up

[cixthree]

so floyd is a drug user/dealer too because his father/trainer has history with illegal drugs? you want me to use that link on your idol?

True: now we have the test to prove both are not using. On one hand you have Floyd, linked to a drug trafficker willing to fully do random blood and urine. The other we have Manny, linked to a trainer who knowingly trains fighters on the juice. NOT willing to undergo FULL random blood and urine,

[Nuurzhaelan]

3 or 5 are not facts they're opinions.

I was thinking the same thing. They are opinions. But they are commonly held opinions.