Reasonable doubt....PEDs

[cixthree]

i'll break it down slowly so you would get what i'm trying to say. ok so toney took peds...he got caught so i'll give that to you it's a fact. roach was his trainer...fact. you said roach knew toney was roiding...fact maybe i don't know. even if he knew so what? toney is a big guy who can definitely decide for himself? does he needed to be adviced whether or not to take peds? does his history of taking peds automatically transfers to his trainer? and now you're trying to connect toney's peds use to pac because he has roach as trainer too...that's pure speculation right there and it's ******.

next one...ariza said pac has no idea what he takes, so? if ariza is feeding pac steroids you think he would say something like that in public? it's ****** to give out hint when you're doing something illegal don't you think? it's true ariza said those words...speculating something out of it if like you do if you can't prove it is ******.

so arum said he knew about oscar's previous test results which could be positive of peds and you speculated (again) that he allowed it and he could be doing it again with pac. the question is...if he allowed oscar's test results to be manipulated why do you think he is challenging oscar right now to issue a waiver? don't you think it's ****** for arum to put himself in a situation where his reputation as a promoter will be put to question? again another one of your ****** speculations

Ok, I get what you're saying perfectly. But let me fill you in, Roach knew "We didn't know the steroids were still in his system, it was his skill that won him the fight not the steroids" that's a fact that he said those words.

Ariza made 2 statements on the Manny has no idea thing. The first was what I quoted, the second was a clean up after what he said got too much attention.

And I did say If Arum knew, and IF he knew and IF he allowed it. I never said he def knew and he def allowed it.
Id be "******" to say def, lol.

[cixthree]

I'm about the farthest thing from "an angry guy" you can get, I'm only one of a few who didn't call you "******" but you seem more offended that I questioned you about your Kahn comments so whatever. If you took it sideways it wasn't meant that way however, again I say you should take your own advice as I read every word you wrote in this thread... did you bother to read past my "sideways" comment about Kahn. If you can't take a difference of opinion without taking it as a personal attack I don't know what to tell you. If you need to have the last word go right ahead. I'm not here to argue, only gave an OPINION to a thread you posted for all on BS. Peace.

Its all luv dude, I didn't get offended at all. I just understand that I have mine and you have yours, and we can state ours without belittling others. Opinions are neither wrong nor rite, they are what they are. Peace

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facts are facts(fact)

[cixthree]

facts are facts(fact)

You got me and that's a(fact) LOL