what would be pac's record if he goes thru floyd's resume?

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  • Hannibal Barca
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    #71
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    OK, Singsurat was not a better fighter than Manfreddy. But, MAB and JMM were. So what is the point of that question?

    How was he a decent fighter? Because, he had a bunch of KO's against bums and nobodies?
    The Mayweather-Manfredy bout took place during a similar period of time as the Pacquiao-Singurat fight. 9 months earlier to be exact. Considering Pac skill level and the losses he took at the time, logic allows us to assume Manfredy would have been a tough matchup considering the level of competition Manny was facing in 1998. The MAB and JMM fights weren't fought until 2003 and 2004 respectively, 4-5 years after a Manfredy fight would have taken place. Pac was not as good in 98, as he was in 03-04.

    I personally though he was a decent fighter. If you don't agree, that's your prerogative. Perhaps Manny wouldn't have taken an L, but I believe he would had a few issues with N'dou.
    Last edited by Hannibal Barca; 05-13-2010, 12:48 AM.

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      #72
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      I think he could of KO'd both Judah and JMM at 147.

      I think both Pac and JMM are completely different at WW then they were at FW and SFW.
      i dnt think the pac that was around when floyd fought judah ko's judah. i dnt even think he beats judah. judah was def the more skilled of the two at that time. pac was still a limited one handed fighter.

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      • Hannibal Barca
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        #73
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        I think he could of KO'd both Judah and JMM at 147.

        I think both Pac and JMM are completely different at WW then they were at FW and SFW.
        Pac would have KO'd Judah in 06? I don't know. He would have probably beaten him, but a KO victory? Possibly. But lets not get it twisted, Judah wasn't a pushover at the time. He was good fighter.

        JMM has never been stopped.

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          #74
          I dissagree on Pac KOing Judah in 2006.

          In 2006 he was hurt by Larios a guy who moved up 2 weight classes to fight Pac. No way he eats Judah's punches. I also think Judah was way more skilled at the time.

          Right now it wont even be a fight Pac kills him.

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            I bet he would still get Torrecampo'd and Singsurrated a couple times early on... I could easily see 5-6 losses... I mean, you gotta throw in style too, pretty much all his big fights have been against stand and trade types. Mayweather's opposition has been a bit more diversified IMO.

            Judah would be a possible loss

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              #76
              Originally posted by Hannibal Barca
              The Mayweather-Manfredy bout took place during a similar period of time as the Pacquiao-Singurat fight. 9 months earlier to be exact. Considering Pac skill and the losses he took at the time, logic allows us to assume Manfredy would have been a tough matchup considering the level of competition Manny was facing in 1998. The MAB and JMM fights weren't fought until 2003 and 2004 respectively, 4-5 years after a Manfredy fight would have taken place. Pac was not as good in 98, as he was in 03-04.

              I personally though he was a decent fighter. If you don't agree, that's your prerogative. Perhaps Manny wouldn't have taken an L, but I believe he would had a few issues with N'dou.
              Is it fair to say that he was weight drained since Singsurat?

              Who did you think was better Singsarut or Sasakul?

              He fought Sasakul a year earlier before Singsurat. And, I think Sasakul was in 98 also.

              I just having a hard time understanding that comparison. Not taking into account the variables.

              Or are you saying that Manfreddy would beat a weight-drained Pac? If so then yes I agree.

              We would have to disagree about Ndou because I don't know what made him decent enough to give Pac problems. I just don't know. And, I am serious wondering if you would be saying this exact thing if Floyd never fought him.

              Other guys on Floyd resume like Jesus Chavez and Victoriano Sosa would give Pac more problems then Ndou would.

              The Ndou comment just got me by surprise. Not in a million years did I think somebody would say Ndou could beat Pac. But we would just agree to disagree.

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                #77
                Originally posted by No Ceilings
                I dissagree on Pac KOing Judah in 2006.

                In 2006 he was hurt by Larios a guy who moved up 2 weight classes to fight Pac. No way he eats Judah's punches. I also think Judah was way more skilled at the time.

                Right now it wont even be a fight Pac kills him.
                bull****....give me any version of judah vs any version of pac and pac makes him quit ....pac by ko/tko!

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by daggum
                  39-2 with 38 knockouts phillip ndou and carlos baldomir both knock him out but other than that.......
                  lol you crack me up everytime

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by DempseyRollin
                    i dnt think the pac that was around when floyd fought judah ko's judah. i dnt even think he beats judah. judah was def the more skilled of the two at that time. pac was still a limited one handed fighter.
                    After 4 rounds and Judah still hadn't stop Pac. What would of been Judah gameplan? Especially with Pac speed and power?

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Hannibal Barca
                      Pac would have KO'd Judah in 06? I don't know. He would have probably beaten him, but a KO victory? Possibly. But lets not get it twisted, Judah wasn't a pushover at the time. He was good fighter.

                      JMM has never been stopped.
                      You don't think Pac could KO JMM at WW in the 2009 version?

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