what would be pac's record if he goes thru floyd's resume?

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  • etlux
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    #41
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    Well wouldn't weight be an issue?

    I have notice some double standard in your posts.

    Why so biased my man?
    what do you mean? You need to specify.

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      #42
      Originally posted by etlux
      what do you mean? You need to specify.
      Would Floyd has to fight the guys that Pac fought at 122. 122, and 126?

      How would he be in those wight-classes?

      We have never seen him in those weight-classes to see how good he would be there right?

      Might be weight drained no?

      I see a lot of bias coming from you.

      For example you wanted to compare Floyd having 20 something fights when he fought Castillo. And, said when Pac had 20 something fights he would lose to Castillo because he was getting KO'd to Torrecampo.

      But, you're not considering that when Floyd had 20 something fights he was already in his 20's while when Pac had 20 something fights he was in his teens.

      It just looks to me that you putting stuff into account to favor Floyd. And, not really considering the situation where both fighters were in at their careers.

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      • daggum
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        #43
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        Would Floyd has to fight the guys that Pac fought at 122. 122, and 126?

        How would he be in those wight-classes?

        We have never seen him in those weight-classes to see how good he would be there right?

        Might be weight drained no?

        I see a lot of bias coming from you.

        For example you wanted to compare Floyd having 20 something fights when he fought Castillo. And, said when Pac had 20 something fights he would lose to Castillo because he was getting KO'd to Torrecampo.

        But, you're not considering that when Floyd had 20 something fights he was already in his 20's while when Pac had 20 something fights he was in his teens.

        It just looks to me that you putting stuff into account to favor Floyd. And, not really considering the situation where both fighters were in at their careers.
        if we want an accurate comparison floyd needs to start his career at 112 pounds. then become champ at 118 pounds. let's see how he deals with being weight drained for a title fight and having to move up 3 divisions.

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        • baracuda
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          #44
          he'd be 41 - 0 with higher ko ratio!

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            #45
            Out of curiosity for everybody who is saying. Pac would be 41-0.

            How would that happen?

            Who would he rematch?

            And, how is the first fight going to be close to even demand a rematch?

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            • trk
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              #46
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              Would Floyd has to fight the guys that Pac fought at 122. 122, and 126?

              How would he be in those wight-classes?

              We have never seen him in those weight-classes to see how good he would be there right?

              Might be weight drained no?
              Depends on what assumptions you make. Floyd won national golden gloves at 106, 114, 125, and probably would have won a gold medal at 126 if he hadn't been blatantly robbed in the semi-finals. If you assume that the young, amateur, version of Floyd is fighting those fights rather than the older pro version then he wouldn't be weight drained and would probably have a good chance of winning any of those fights.

              Originally posted by jrosales
              For example you wanted to compare Floyd having 20 something fights when he fought Castillo. And, said when Pac had 20 something fights he would lose to Castillo because he was getting KO'd to Torrecampo.

              But, you're not considering that when Floyd had 20 something fights he was already in his 20's while when Pac had 20 something fights he was in his teens.

              It just looks to me that you putting stuff into account to favor Floyd. And, not really considering the situation where both fighters were in at their careers.
              Even if you go by age, Manny in his early 20's(when Floyd was at 130 and 135) was still looking pretty vulnerable. When Manny was 20-26 he was KOed by Singsurat, got a 6-round technical draw against Agapito Sanches, drew against Juan Manuel Marquez, and lost to Erik Morales. During that stretch he only beat 1 P4P top 10 quality opponent (Barrera).

              While Floyd was at 130-135, he fought 2 P4P top 10 quality opponents (Corrales and Castillo(x2)), another guy who was close to P4P level (Genaro Hernandez), and about 10 more guys who were all at least good enough to be called serious contenders. If an early 20's Pacquiao had to fight through those opponents, he would probably lose ~1-3 fights.

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              • Sweet Jesus
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                #47
                It's funny how all of the sudden the Pac that we've seen in the last 4 fights is the same Pac that's been fighting his whole career.

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                  #48
                  37-4 Genaro Hernandez Angel Manfredy Diego Corrales Jose Luis Castillo all beat Pac

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                  • Hannibal Barca
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
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                    none of Floyd's opponents are touching Manny
                    Um... No. The man was KO'd by Medgoen Singsurat and Rustico Torrecampo, and fought to a draw with Agapito Sanchez. Floyd faced much tougher competition than Manny did earlier on in their careers. As such, Manny would take a few L's facing the opponents Floyd did earlier on in his career.

                    Manny would have possibly taken an L to one of Angel Manfredy or Genaro Hernandez.

                    He would have been have KO'd by Diego Corrales.

                    He would have taken a KO loss to Jose Luis Castillo in one of the two bouts.

                    He would have taken an L to Phillip N'dou in my opinion.

                    He would have lost to Oscar De La Hoya or Shane Mosely, and possibly even both.

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                    • B.U.R.N.E.R
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                      #50
                      Am the only one think its not even a sure bet he beats Augustus at 135?

                      Or am I alone.

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