How can this equate to "FIGHTER OF THE DECADE"?

[Hannibal Barca]

not necessarily because alot of elite fighters lose early on in their career, but no one factors those loses when discussing how great they are.

I mean does anyone bring up Clinton Mitchell when discussing b-hops career. What about both Marquez brothers and the fact they lost their pro debuts. My thing is we judge fighters for what they did in their prime, which i sanother reason post prime losses don't hurt fighters such as Duran, Ali, Robingson, Leonard and other ATG's.

FWIW no one cares that Floyd lost 6 fights in the amateurs (including to Augie Sanchez) and the reason that I brought it up was to prove the point that certain losses don't matter or affect a fighters legacy.

Like whom? I can't think of any elite fighters who have early KO loses to fighters as terrible as Medgoen Singsurat and Rustico Torrecampo.

It was Bernard's 1st fight, not his thirteenth, and Bernard wasn't KO'd in three rounds.

Post prime loses still matter. You don't get to just write them off as if they don't exist.

Floyd Mayweather was 84-6 as an amateur with three national golden glove titles, a stellar record for any amateur fighter. What was Pacs amateur record? And no ones cares because it's the amateurs, they're irrelevant in regard to pro careers. The same way nobody cares about Payton Manning's record as a high school QB, but the early losses in his career are still taken into account.

[CrackYourJaw]

Like whom? I can't think of any elite fighters who have early KO loses to fighters as terrible as Medgoen Singsurat and Rustico Torrecampo.

It was Bernard's 1st fight, not his thirteenth, and Bernard wasn't KO'd in three rounds.

Post prime loses still matter. You don't get to just write them off as if they don't exist.

Floyd Mayweather was 84-6 as an amateur with three national golden glove titles, a stellar record for any amateur fighter. What was Pacs amateur record? And no ones cares because it's the amateurs, they're irrelevant in regard to pro careers. The same way nobody cares about Payton Manning's record as a high school QB, but the early losses in his career are still taken into account.

I think it was like 60-4 or something like that.

Edit: Just checked, yeah, 60-4.

[Cash Cow]

FWIW no one cares that Floyd lost 6 fights in the amateurs (including to Augie Sanchez) and the reason that I brought it up was to prove the point that certain losses don't matter or affect a fighters legacy."peeleft:

lmao...now your comparing amateur boxing to pro boxing?

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

lol@ that dude saying,,"why judge fighters b4 their prime"

damn jiddu,

you got some nerve showing your face after getting owned in your thread. what osiris is saying that you judge properly & accordingly with what happens in your prime as well as your whole entire career. what you *****s are doing are trying to denigrate a great legendary career by pacquioa by bringing up his loses when he was just in his teenage prepubescent years & just starting his career. Now if pac got KTFO in his prime then we can accordingly scrutinize & add it to the equation.

salvador sanchez lost to a nobody in his 18th pro fight. you dont see anybody trying to discredit the wonderful things that chava did because he lost to some obscure mexican in the beginning of his career. humberto gonzalez lost to some nobody in his 30th fight. that doesnt take away his great career. that doesnt take away what he accomplished after getting ko.

the only reason why you *****s like to bring up those 2 knock outs that do no harm to pacquiao is that floyd is undefeated & it gives you some false sense of righteousness that pac must suck because he got KTFO when he was a malnourished destitute kid living in squalor when he lost & floyd yaps about it & you parrot it like a idiot.

those 2 knockout loses do no harm to pacquiao's legacy. it doesnt take away the great things he accomplished & the joys he has given millions of boxing fans around the globe after getting ktfo 2x; once because he was weight drained & once because of a simultaneously head butt & low blow.

but if you feel like it gives you ammunition in our little pathetic unimportant nsb world that carries no weight in the outside world then so be it. Just remember history & public record & opinion will disagree with you.

[Khalid X]

lmao...now your comparing amateur boxing to pro boxing?

you completely missed the point of why I brought that up....SMH

[ProudAmerican]

you completely missed the point of why I brought that up....SMH

Yo man you gotta stop owning these fools .

[Khalid X]

damn jiddu,

you got some nerve showing your face after getting owned in your thread. what osiris is saying that you judge properly & accordingly with what happens in your prime as well as your whole entire career. what you *****s are doing are trying to denigrate a great legendary career by pacquioa by bringing up his loses when he was just in his teenage prepubescent years & just starting his career. Now if pac got KTFO in his prime then we can accordingly scrutinize & add it to the equation.

salvador sanchez lost to a nobody in his 18th pro fight. you dont see anybody trying to discredit the wonderful things that chava did because he lost to some obscure mexican in the beginning of his career. humberto gonzalez lost to some nobody in his 30th fight. that doesnt take away his great career. that doesnt take away what he accomplished after getting ko.

the only reason why you *****s like to bring up those 2 knock outs that do no harm to pacquiao is that floyd is undefeated & it gives you some false sense of righteousness that pac must suck because he got KTFO when he was a malnourished destitute kid living in squalor when he lost & floyd yaps about it & you parrot it like a idiot.

those 2 knockout loses do no harm to pacquiao's legacy. it doesnt take away the great things he accomplished & the joys he has given millions of boxing fans around the globe after getting ktfo 2x; once because he was weight drained & once because of a simultaneously head butt & low blow.

but if you feel like it gives you ammunition in our little pathetic unimportant nsb world that carries no weight in the outside world then so be it. Just remember history & public record & opinion will disagree with you.

Honestly he was better off keeping his head tucked between his legs....ala the last 7-10 pages of him not responding even thought he was online

[Cash Cow]

Honestly he was better off keeping his head tucked between his legs....ala the last 7-10 pages of him not responding even thought he was online

yeah i was logged in NSB but wasnt at my computer champ

[Cash Cow]

you completely missed the point of why I brought that up....SMH

because there was no point

[Khalid X]

because there was no point

just like your whole existence on boxingscene