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    #211
    Some people here honestly think Pacquiao's legacy is a myth?

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    • tesla_power
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      #212
      Originally posted by Hannibal Barca
      Like whom? I can't think of any elite fighters who have early KO loses to fighters as terrible as Medgoen Singsurat and Rustico Torrecampo.

      It was Bernard's 1st fight, not his thirteenth, and Bernard wasn't KO'd in three rounds.

      Post prime loses still matter. You don't get to just write them off as if they don't exist.

      Floyd Mayweather was 84-6 as an amateur with three national golden glove titles, a stellar record for any amateur fighter. What was Pacs amateur record? And no ones cares because it's the amateurs, they're irrelevant in regard to pro careers. The same way nobody cares about Payton Manning's record as a high school QB, but the early losses in his career are still taken into account.
      Post prime loses hardly matter. On the other hand, post prime wins are a factor. It means that you have managed to win even though father time is no longer with you. Outside of haters, no one brings up the 19 losses of SRR.

      Pac has no amateur record. He was forced to learn the trade in the pro ranks.

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      • Khalid X
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        #213
        Originally posted by Easy Work Jr.
        yeah i was logged in NSB but wasnt at my computer champ
        exactly, like I said...head tucked between your legs.

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        • Hannibal Barca
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          #214
          Originally posted by tesla_power
          Post prime loses hardly matter. On the other hand, post prime wins are a factor. It means that you have managed to win even though father time is no longer with you. Outside of haters, no one brings up the 19 losses of SRR.

          Pac has no amateur record. He was forced to learn the trade in the pro ranks.
          Fair enough. They hardly matter, but they are indeed a factor. With that said, I refuse to write off early career loses for any fighter. That's flat out unfair, especially when they have a reasonable amount of fights under their belt.

          I believe he did/does have a amateur record, but for the most part it's undocumented.

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          • jaskieee
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            #215
            Originally posted by trk
            People have short memories. Pacquiao had a great lest 2 years of the decade while Floyd was mostly inactive, so people remember that and forget what happened in the first 8 years of the decade.
            Thats what it comes down to, if Floyd had of fought Shane in 2009 instead of Marquez i think he would have had a better crack at the title, maybe it would have helped if his fight with marquez didnt get delayed from July to September and he was able to squeeze the two fights into the year he would have been in a better position to make a claim.

            Regardless of this, i think Floyd will be higher on the list for the next decade then Pacquiao, and he was more then likely higher the previous decade. His style may be boring but has enhanced his longevity, i think pacman's style will catch up with him.

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            • Ragnar Lothbrok
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              #216
              Originally posted by Hannibal Barca
              Fair enough. They hardly matter, but they are indeed a factor. With that said, I refuse to write off early career loses for any fighter. That's flat out unfair, especially when they have a reasonable amount of fights under their belt.

              I believe he did/does have a amateur record, but for the most part it's undocumented.
              not as much as you make it out to be. You were already proven wrong with tesla's SRR answer.

              clearly what you do in your prime carries the most weight.

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                #217
                Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
                just like your whole existence on boxingscene
                yeah cause my entire reality revolves around boxing scene...lol

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                • tesla_power
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                  #218
                  Originally posted by Hannibal Barca
                  Fair enough. They hardly matter, but they are indeed a factor. With that said, I refuse to write off early career loses for any fighter. That's flat out unfair, especially when they have a reasonable amount of fights under their belt.

                  I believe he did/does have a amateur record, but for the most part it's undocumented.
                  Then ok. That is your opinion and I don't force anyone to think otherwise.

                  But he does not have an amateur record unless maybe you count fights in festivals and stuff. One where they give you candy after a fight. Lolz. But if you meant a staged amateur fight with actual judges not someone pulled out of the crowd, then he does not have one.

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                    #219
                    Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
                    exactly, like I said...head tucked between your legs.
                    naw its called taking care of my son, feeding him and getting him ready for bed

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                    • Hannibal Barca
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                      #220
                      Originally posted by Clayton Bigsby
                      not as much as you make it out to be. You were already proven wrong with tesla's SRR answer.

                      clearly what you do in your prime carries the most weight.
                      SSR had 200 total fights, not 50. It's hardly comparable.
                      Last edited by Hannibal Barca; 05-10-2010, 12:39 AM.

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