I dont hate him at all. I just think he is very, very overrated (and was beaten by Collazo in my mind). Ive seen every one of his tv fights, and I think a top level guy kills him. He has speed, but thats about it.
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Originally posted by pacmanis1 View PostThe only fight I've ever seen is last weekends, and I became a fan. I'm not saying he's top 3 or anything but he's fun to watch and I think there is a little too much hate, but then again I'm sure if I was on these forums back during the early 2000's I'm sure Gatti had plenty of hate. Doesn't matter to me if he's not the best. Like it's been said he's fast and ain't afraid to throw which makes for an entertaining fight, and I'd rather watch an exciting fight than Mayweather potshot his way to a UD.
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Originally posted by Spray_resistant View PostIts seems like HBO is trying to sell him as ready for or on the level of the top 3 guys and he is nowhere near it.
He is a great athlete but not the most skilled boxer, and hasn't gotten better since i have seen him.
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If you don't like Berto and think any random welter beats him fine. But the truth is he would most likely beat any welter besides Floyd, Pac, and as of right now Shane. Yes, that includes Cotto. And after I recieve my points from Berto's latest win, I'd be willing to bet on him in just about any fight he could get this year. If he keeps beating top guys, your hate means very little.
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Originally posted by -GDS- View PostIf you don't like Berto and think any random welter beats him fine. But the truth is he would most likely beat any welter besides Floyd, Pac, and as of right now Shane. Yes, that includes Cotto. And after I recieve my points from Berto's latest win, I'd be willing to bet on him in just about any fight he could get this year. If he keeps beating top guys, your hate means very little.
collazo wins a rematch and clottey beats him too.
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Originally posted by -GDS- View PostIf you don't like Berto and think any random welter beats him fine. But the truth is he would most likely beat any welter besides Floyd, Pac, and as of right now Shane. Yes, that includes Cotto. And after I recieve my points from Berto's latest win, I'd be willing to bet on him in just about any fight he could get this year. If he keeps beating top guys, your hate means very little.
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Originally posted by Siggy View Postmike jones and antwone smith both beat berto.
collazo wins a rematch and clottey beats him too.Last edited by -GDS-; 04-14-2010, 01:59 AM.
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Originally posted by -GDS- View PostYou've got jokes. Mike Jones hasn't beat a welter as good as Cosme Rivera or Estada. He had to take a step up in class to fight a welter Henry Brussels. Collazo knows what would happen in a rematch, which is why he didn't take it the first time. Hope he wins vs Adyin so one has to happen. Hope Berto stops him too, because if not, they'll just be endless whining like the first time, where I think he lost BTW. A Clottey fight is interesting I'll give you that. He could beat Berto, same as he may have beaten Cotto.
-mike jones is too big and too skilled for him. jones is more skilled and versatile than berto will ever be.
-antwone would out work him. he keeps his hands free, has better stamina and hits harder.
-i thought collazo won the first match and i dont think berto's improved much since, so collazo takes the rematch.
-clottey sharp shoots him and berto gasses trying to crack the shell with bombs and shoe shines.
but yeah, outside of them and the top of the division, berto beats everyone at 147. i wont even get into how i think he'd fare against some of the top 140 lbers.
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Originally posted by Siggy View Postim not joking. i believe all 4 beat him.
-mike jones is too big and too skilled for him. jones is more skilled and versatile than berto will ever be.
-antwone would out work him. he keeps his hands free, has better stamina and hits harder.
-i thought collazo won the first match and i dont think berto's improved much since, so collazo takes the rematch.
-clottey sharp shoots him and berto gasses trying to crack the shell with bombs and shoe shines.
but yeah, outside of them and the top of the division, berto beats everyone at 147. i wont even get into how i think he'd fare against some of the top 140 lbers.
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