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Rocky Marciano. Beat Joe Louis when Joe Louis was retired and forced into the ring. That win made him an ATG. Everyone and their mothers are ATGs then because take Dawson for instance, he already beat Johnson and Tarver who are HoF fighters. Calzaghe is an ATG because he beat Hopkins and Jones. Nearly everyone is an ATG, I'm sure there are other old timers who are overrated but some are just too flagrant.Sometimes.
Example: Jack Dempsey in these lists.
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A very interesting statistic about Marciano: Out of 49 fights, only 19 opponents fought him coming off a win. Meaning most of his opponents were coming off losses when they fought him. This is a clear sign of trying to fabricate what should be natural. Anyway he made it and some people will consider him an ATG for some reason.Comment
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Of course they get overrated sometimes, but the are often rated so high in the first place for a reason
the ring experience the "golden age" fighters had is a major factor. a highly seasoned veteran from back then had a much more refined style. in modern fights you can notice the difference in ring experience between a young fighter with a solid amateur career and a guy without one, so imagine a modern paper title-holder against a "golden age" pro with a hundred fights and years of contending for one title.
the old school guys had to develop effective footwork and defense or there is no way they could have earned a good living. when you're fighting every month, you can't afford to go out there and get ****** up when it isn't necessary. nowadays guys get into the gym a few months before the fight and take a few months off afterwards.
modern fighters may be strong and fast but there is more to boxing than that. you have to take into account the psychological aspect of it. do you really think that if roy jones was in the ring with sugar ray he would able to jive him like he did some guys? No, the old school guys would earn their respect and it would come down to boxing skills, stamina and determination
of course there are guys from the modern era that could compete with anyone but honestly in most but not all fantasy match-ups, i think most of the champions from the 20s,30s,40s and 50s are better than the champions of todayComment
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Yes, they get overrated.
Cars of then aren't as good as cars of now.
Weapons of then aren't as good as weapons of now.
People are no different. They improve as time goes on.
Per reference to the RJJ-SRR..... Prime RJJ would own him... and this statement does not contain hyperbole.Comment
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Hell yeahh.....If I hear one more idiot boxing "guru" try to explain to me how Willie Pep won a round without a punch Im goin postal. Or that Joe Louis would have been a monster even in the 90's. He wouldnt have made it past the 70's let alone facing Rid**** Bowe or Larry Holmes.Comment
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Come on Flick. What did jones do better than Robinson? He was faster, but thats about it. Robinson was as good if not a better finisher. Better chin. Better power for his weight, imo. Better skills both offensively and defensively and he fought an overall better crop of fighters.Comment
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