Hopkins: I'll create a Canadian Kelly Pavlik out of Lucian Bute

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  • B.U.R.N.E.R
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    #31
    Originally posted by cupocity303
    You think you are neutral but I sense a bit of hostility from you towards Hopkins. Maybe because you are a Chad Dawson fan? See my last post above for reasons why B-Hop doesn't have to fight Chad Dawson.

    Question, how is Hopkins, a 45 year old part-time fighter who doesn't hold any Official world-titles like Ring Magazine, WBC, WBA, WBO or IBF, how is he keeping Chad Dawson down in any way? It's not ducking if he isn't the champ of the division, Dawson is the champ.
    Iwent and read it.

    He doesnt have to fight Bute either. I dont see what beating Bute does for him.

    Hopkins is not a 168 Pounder hes a 175 Pounder. He should make the Dawson fight at 175. Everyone wants to see it.

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      #32
      Originally posted by No Ceilings
      Iwent and read it.

      He doesnt have to fight Bute either. I dont see what beating Bute does for him.

      Hopkins is not a 168 Pounder hes a 175 Pounder. He should make the Dawson fight at 175. Everyone wants to see it.
      So you propose that Bernard Hopkins waits until early 2011 to fight Chad Dawson for less money?

      That doesn't make any sense when Bute has a fight coming up next week and assuming he wins they can schedule a fight in a few months from now and oh yeah, make a lot more money.

      If hopkins wants to fight again he needs to do it quick, not Dec of 2010 or Jan/Feb of 2011 when he's 46.

      Floyd fans always talk about money, money, money but when it comes to bernard hopkins it's not even considered. Any way you look at it Bute is better for bernard right now - doesn't have to wait nearly a year and makes more money.
      Last edited by ИATAS; 04-10-2010, 05:30 PM.

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        #33
        Originally posted by ИATAS206
        So you propose that Bernard Hopkins waits until early 2011 to fight Chad Dawson for less money?

        That doesn't make any sense when Bute has a fight coming up next week and assuming he wins they can schedule a fight in a few months from now and oh yeah, make a lot more money.

        Floyd fans always talk about money, money, money but when it comes to bernard hopkins it's not even considered.
        Cmon man hes not going to make some insane amount of cash fighting Bute. Lets be real here. Bute will take the Lion share.

        He had a couple of chances to make the Dawson fight though. If hes going to fight Bute do it at Bute's weight of 168 Pounds. Not 170.

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          #34
          Originally posted by No Ceilings
          Cmon man hes not going to make some insane amount of cash fighting Bute. Lets be real here. Bute will take the Lion share.

          He had a couple of chances to make the Dawson fight though. If hes going to fight Bute do it at Bute's weight of 168 Pounds. Not 170.
          again, you want bernard to wait until Dec of 2010 or Jan/Feb of 2011 when he's 46 years old?

          Bute makes sense RIGHT NOW. Dawson is to far away, even if the money is right (which it isn't, hopkins would likely make $1 million against Dawson vs a possible $3 million against Bute). Hopkins cant afford to take another year off from boxing, are you crazy?

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            #35
            Originally posted by No Ceilings
            Iwent and read it.

            He doesnt have to fight Bute either. I dont see what beating Bute does for him.

            Hopkins is not a 168 Pounder hes a 175 Pounder. He should make the Dawson fight at 175. Everyone wants to see it.
            Well if you've read my post about why he doesn't have to fight Dawson, then the answer lies in that post.

            Keyword: FINANCIALLY, Hopkins said that he would go to Canada to fight him, which means, he obviously cares for a big crowd, which is what Bute brings to the table and Dawson doesn't.


            Also in the interest of keeping it real, as a Hopkins fan (and I already mentioned cherry picking and why he is entitled to do that), B-hop probably wants to fight Bute because he sees something that he can exploit. He said he will turn him into another Kelly Pavlik, so he must be certain that he can beat him.

            He probably doesn't have that same confidence against Dawson who he views as a bigger threat, BUT that goes back to the whole Rick Vs Reward factor, if a Dawson victory brought more reward than risk, he'd bite in a second.
            Last edited by cupocity303; 04-10-2010, 05:37 PM.

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              #36
              Originally posted by ИATAS206
              again, you want bernard to wait until Dec of 2010 or Jan/Feb of 2011 when he's 46 years old?

              Bute makes sense RIGHT NOW. Dawson is to far away, even if the money is right (which it isn't, hopkins would likely make $1 million against Dawson vs a possible $3 million against Bute). Hopkins cant afford to take another year off from boxing, are you crazy?
              Dawson would pull out the Pascal fight tomorrow to fight Hopkins. You know that. I said nothing about waiting.

              I dont see him getting 3 Million vs. Bute. HBO might not even broadcast that fight.

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                #37
                Originally posted by No Ceilings
                Cmon man hes not going to make some insane amount of cash fighting Bute. .
                Bute represents the same Cash-factor that Danny Green did with his Australian market. They both put asses in seats at their neck-of-the-woods.

                Except, Bute >>> Danny Green in skill, athleticism and overall ability
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                Last edited by cupocity303; 04-10-2010, 05:38 PM.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by cupocity303
                  Well if you've read my post about why he doesn't have to fight Dawson, then the answer lies in that post.

                  Keyword: FINANCIALLY, Hopkins said that he would go to Canada to fight him, which means, he obviously cares for a big crowd, which is what Bute brings to the table and Dawson doesn't.


                  Also in the interest of keeping it real, as a Hopkins fan (and I already mentioned cherry picking and why he is entitled to do that), B-hop probably wants to fight Bute because he sees something that he can exploit. He said he will turn him into another Kelly Pavlik, so he must be certain that he can beat him.

                  He probably doesn't have that same confidece against Dawson who he views as a bigger threat, BUT that goes back to the whole Rick Vs Reward factor, if a Dawson victory brought more reward then risk, he'd bite
                  Yeah anyone who watched Andrade damn near knock Bute out should see something there that Hops can capitalize on. If Hopkins came out today and said "I want Dawson" Chad would pull out the Pascal fight in the same day. Not to mention that fight has been moved twice now.

                  Even with Bute no one in the states knows who he is. I doubt HBO PPV will pick it up. Hell regular HBO might not pick it up.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by No Ceilings
                    Yeah anyone who watched Andrade damn near knock Bute out should see something there that Hops can capitalize on. If Hopkins came out today and said "I want Dawson" Chad would pull out the Pascal fight in the same day. Not to mention that fight has been moved twice now.

                    Even with Bute no one in the states knows who he is. I doubt HBO PPV will pick it up. Hell regular HBO might not pick it up.
                    HBO picked up the Bute vs Andrade 2 before, it will do it again. How long you been around for Burner and you didn't know this?

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                      #40
                      So he'll fight a completely unknown, young SMW but he won't fight the most popular American LHW with good names n his resume who has been calling him out for ages?

                      RETIRE B-HOP!!!

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