Oscar De LeHoya: What has he ever done to warrant ATG status?

[IMDAZED]

Chavez was indeed far past his prime, but i'm sorry no current welterweight would fuck with prime oscar, and yes, he's fought everyone.

Give me a break. I hate when people make blanket statements like this. ONE of the current welterweights already BEAT a prime Oscar and that guy had only two fights at 147 prior to doing it.

[IMDAZED]

Whitaker, Vargas, Chavez, Hernandez, Gonzalez, Quartey, Carr, disagree.

Vargas? Come on, man.

[oc9979]

How the hell did Tito ruin Vargas?? A person that gets ruined doesn't become a world champion again, doesn't beat a good fighter in Castillejo.

after tito, he beat someone for for a whole bunch of vacant title. Castillejo was good but nothing especial

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Whitaker, Vargas, Chavez, Hernandez, Gonzalez, Quartey, Carr, disagree.

You're letting your fandom blind you man.

[AC-Voltage]

Chavez was indeed far past his prime, but i'm sorry no current welterweight would fuck with prime oscar, and yes, he's fought everyone.

I think top 3 WW's would all beat him again. Prime or not.

[Mr. Fantastic]

I can honestly say, speaking for myself, I was not surprised. Did you seriously not see that Chavez was not the same great fighter he once was? Wasn't hard for me to see. I don't know how the cut happened but the damage was definitely there before the fight. Not that it mattered because Chavez was done at that point and Delahoya fought him at the perfect time.

Then WHY was he the favorite to a lot of people??

[Mr. Fantastic]

Vargas? Come on, man.

Yes Vargas. I even admit Vargas wasn't 100% but ruined is such bull****.

[Mr. Fantastic]

You're letting your fandom blind you man.

Sort of what happens with you and Floyd/Williams??

[IMDAZED]

Yes Vargas. I even admit Vargas wasn't 100% but ruined is such bull****.

Why is it bull****?

[S.G.]

What is you guys' definition of 'all time great', for the record? If you mean like the top 20 or 30 boxers ever then no, he's not an ATG. Personally--although it's obviously no exact science and I'll be damned if I'm gonna sit down and actually make a list--I think it roughly equates to top 100 (an idea probably initially planted in my head by Bert Sugar) and I think there's a spot for Oscar in there somewhere.