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Oscar De LeHoya: What has he ever done to warrant ATG status?

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  • #41
    Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic View Post
    If you like Oscar fine lol. Even people that don't like Oscar admit to Oscar being robbed in those fights.

    You guys are a bunch of cavemen. Where is Jrosales for a decent argument???
    Oscar lost EVERY time he stepped up to the plate. Hes a level below those fighters.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Saint Anus View Post
      Chavez was way past his best. He had lost to Randal twice, Whitaker and had his ass kicked for 11 rounds by Taylor.

      Whitaker was 2 fights away from retirement. And the win is questionable.


      BUT, i give Oscar a lot of credit for all he achieved.

      He cant be an ATG with his losses.
      Then how was he the favorite then?? According to the media, fans, etc.

      Questionable?? Close fight, yea it was.

      Who do you consider "great" in this decade?

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      • #43
        there was a real good tribute to dlh when he first retired.the conclusion was that dlh is going to the hall of fame,but that he lost all of his important fights.thats how the hardcore will remember him.casual fans will say he is a top 3 atg.i think you can make an argument because of the gold medal and being a ten time champion in 6 divisions.i will say that he helped the sport.a lot

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        • #44
          Originally posted by S.G. View Post
          Let's see.....

          - Winning a world title in his 12th fight
          - John John Molina
          - Rafael Ruelas
          - Genaro Hernandez
          - Jesse James Leija
          - Julio Cesar Chavez
          - Miguel Angel Gonzalez
          - Pernell Whitaker
          - Hector Camacho
          - Wilfredo Rivera
          - Julio Cesar Chavez II
          - Ike Quartey
          - Felix Trinidad

          - Arturo Gatti
          - Javier Castillejo
          - Fernando Vargas
          - Luis Ramon Campas
          - Shane Mosley II
          - Ricardo Mayorga

          And being competitive in losses to Floyd Mayweather Jr., Bernard Hopkins and Felix Sturm.

          All that over a span of six weight divisions and generating 12.8m pay per view buys in the process.
          He got a gift against Sturm but a win is a win.

          He loss to Mosley and Tito.

          The fighters in bold don't help you're argument.

          They where ether past it, undersized or not good to begin with.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic View Post
            Its easy to say when the fight already happened years ago.

            Oh the cut that his so called son did to him? lol
            I can honestly say, speaking for myself, I was not surprised. Did you seriously not see that Chavez was not the same great fighter he once was? Wasn't hard for me to see. I don't know how the cut happened but the damage was definitely there before the fight. Not that it mattered because Chavez was done at that point and Delahoya fought him at the perfect time.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by zero188 View Post
              there was a real good tribute to dlh when he first retired.the conclusion was that dlh is going to the hall of fame,but that he lost all of his important fights.thats how the hardcore will remember him.casual fans will say he is a top 3 atg.i think you can make an argument because of the gold medal and being a ten time champion in 6 divisions.i will say that he helped the sport.a lot
              I agree 100%. No one will ever forget him for the attention he brought the sport and hes definitely a Hall of Fame talent. He just lost to every great fighter he fought. A great fighter would atleast split or win some.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by CarlosG815 View Post
                Are you serious dude?

                Do you know anything about boxing? Have you ever seen him fight? Do you know who he fought?

                Or have you only been watching boxing since 2007? GTFO of here with this ****, Oscar is one of the greatest of all time, and the best fighter of the 90's and early to mid 2000's.

                I'll back it up later when I get home but me and my girl are going to see her dads band.

                Go educate yourself on Oscar in the meantime, you should acknowledge his greatness by the time I return if you have half a wit.

                Absolutely not

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                • #48
                  Chavez was indeed far past his prime, but i'm sorry no current welterweight would fuck with prime oscar, and yes, he's fought everyone.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
                    Oscar lost EVERY time he stepped up to the plate. Hes a level below those fighters.
                    Whitaker, Vargas, Chavez, Hernandez, Gonzalez, Quartey, Carr, disagree.

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                    • #50
                      Oscar is a hall of famer. Oscar is not an all time great. Oscar was lucky to receive decisions over Pernell Whitaker and Ike Quartey. Oscar was robbed in the Shane Mosley rematch. Oscar is a closet ****sexual.

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