Oscar De LeHoya: What has he ever done to warrant ATG status?

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  • C.Y.
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    #121
    Originally posted by ИATAS206
    Look at his resume, he fought EVERYONE.
    i like OScar, but you can't give a guy credit for losing all of his big fights, (you can argue trinidad, mosley 2, quartey, sturm, whitaker) i dont care who he loses to, the point is, he still lost.

    you want to give mayorga all time great stats because he fought and lost to mosley, de la hoya and trinidad?

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      #122
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      Mosley wasn't a power puncher at 154 - not in the manner he was at 147 or 135. Mosley's only significant win at 154 was over Oscar. That was it.

      And second, WORLD CHAMPION SCHAMPION. He beat FRANCISCO CASTILLEJO BY UNANIMOUS DECISION FOR A PAPER TITLE.
      But a ruined fighter would of gotten knocked out against a HOF type of fighter in his prime right?? lol
      Dude you're too easy.

      Doesn't change the fact the he was still a world champion. Do you consider Miguel Cotto a champion??

      You dudes may not like Oscar but sorry, he has accomplished more than a lot of these so called greats in boxing. That is a fact, not an opinion.

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      • IMDAZED
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        #123
        Since when do you become an ATG by losing? He fought everyone...wtf? And Oscar fought everyone on his terms, meaning at their weakest points.

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          #124
          Originally posted by C.Y.
          i like OScar, but you can't give a guy credit for losing all of his big fights, (you can argue trinidad, mosley 2, quartey, sturm, whitaker) i dont care who he loses to, the point is, he still lost.

          you want to give mayorga all time great stats because he fought and lost to mosley, de la hoya and trinidad?
          what's the difference with delusional floyd fan boys making diego corrales & jose luis castillo first ballot hall of fame atgs in order to prop up mayweather?

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            #125
            Originally posted by thephantom5
            He got a gift against Sturm but a win is a win.

            He loss to Mosley and Tito.

            The fighters in bold don't help you're argument.

            They where ether past it, undersized or not good to begin with.
            Hector Camacho also was finished as a top flight fighter by then, vastly overweight, and he had no KO punch, which meant that Oscar could walk through him, as he always did aagainst light punchers. Except Whitaker.

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            • Mr. Fantastic
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              #126
              Originally posted by No Ceilings
              Who judged him on the last year of his career? No one in here did.
              Hey what are Floyd's biggest wins??

              Castillo??
              Hatton?
              And OLD DLH??
              Hernandez?? A guy DLH beat years before??

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                #127
                Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic
                But a ruined fighter would of gotten knocked out against a HOF type of fighter in his prime right?? lol
                Dude you're too easy.
                Mosley isn't a HOF'er for what he's done at 154. Try to be logical.

                Doesn't change the fact the he was still a world champion. Do you consider Miguel Cotto a champion??
                Try to stick to the topic. Yes, Vargas won a paper title versus a paper champ. Guess he was still Vargas! Even though he had been nearly KO'ed by a washed up Wilfredo Rivera!

                You dudes may not like Oscar but sorry, he has accomplished more than a lot of these so called greats in boxing. That is a fact, not an opinion.
                He's a HOF'er, we know. But ATG? To casual fans and you maybe. It's Friday, I'm off to the bar.

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                  #128
                  He fought everyone, lets not beat around the bushes he was robbed of a win over Trinidad and Mosley the second time around. 10x World Champ in 6 weight divisions, 130-160. Beat ATGs in Chavez and Whitaker, beat tough mofos in Quartey and Vargas. Oscar is an ATG and if you don't agree then .

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                    #129
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    Since when do you become an ATG by losing? He fought everyone...wtf? And Oscar fought everyone on his terms, meaning at their weakest points.
                    How many boxers actually took the risks he took??

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                    • B.U.R.N.E.R
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic
                      Hey what are Floyd's biggest wins??

                      Castillo??
                      Hatton?
                      And OLD DLH??
                      Hernandez?? A guy DLH beat years before??
                      Dont try to squeeze your way out this beating you are getting in this thread.

                      Oscar is the topic.

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