Oscar De LeHoya: What has he ever done to warrant ATG status?

[edgarg]

How the hell did Tito ruin Vargas?? A person that gets ruined doesn't become a world champion again, doesn't beat a good fighter in Castillejo.

Anyone who fought and lost to Trinidad, probably did so violently, considering Trinidad's modus operandi, and to be KD 5 times including a KO by a Trinidad, is enough qualification for ruining anybody.

Especially since it occurred through 12 hard rounds.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Ruined fighters dont beat Castillejo??? WTF? GTFOH, man. That's the best you got??

Please tell me what ruined fighters go on to win another WORLD CHAMPION??
I'm probably one of the biggest Vargas haters but this Tito ruined is a bunch of BS mostly made up by Tito fans.

[The Hate Giver]

Please somebody tell me.

he was a very good boxer who was good looking thus selling lots of tickets & publicity which in turn made him into a boxing legend.

if oscar had the same records, resume, & fought the same fights, but if he had a de****able looking face like lets say ricky hatton, he would have sold half & gotten half the credit.


just like if floyd was a quiet non american & did the same things & fought the same fighters he fought he would have gotten half the stuf he deserves.

oscar is not a ATG in a boxing resume & skills wise, but he's legend popularity wise.

[Calilloyd]

You haven't proven **** about Vargas being ruined by Tito. Ruined fighters don't do what Vargas did.

Oscar would of beaten Vargas at any point in his career. Even if it were to of been before Tito.

That's the big question and I'm not sure that's true. Especially when Delahoya had no interest in fighting Vargas until after he lost to Trinidad. Oscar used to say he would never fight Vargas. Oscar is an opportunist and I think he waited for the right time to make that fight for his benefit.

[zero188]

i think we can all agree that his biggest win as a pro was vargas.just in case for those of you that dont know,oscar himself said in an interview after he retired that the greatest accomplishment in his life was winning the gold medal

[IMDAZED]

Please tell me what ruined fighters go on to win another WORLD CHAMPION??
I'm probably one of the biggest Vargas haters but this Tito ruined is a bunch of BS mostly made up by Tito fans.

You lost it, man. Francisco Castillejo is not a barometer for ANYONE. Stop trying to pretend Vargas beat Winky Wright for the WORLD CHAMPION that you keep hyping up. It was Castillejo - a subpar champ. Get over it. A washed up Wilfredo Rivera gave Vargas more problems, what does that tell you? Keep living in denial. And even if he wasn't ruined, so what? he damn sure wasn't the same. This is some good win? Oh wow, Oscar beat a guy who beat Fransco Castillejo, break out the mariachi band!

[Evil Abed]

Fought all the guys who were considered the best. Guys Floyd would retire 1000 times before ever stepping foot in the ring against!

Olympic Gold
6 Division Champ
PPV King
Successful Promoter

And hes still not an ATG.

Very good though.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

How many fights did Oscar lose in his prime?

[Hi-Dro]

Oscar would **** pwill

there i said it

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[Hi-Dro]

oscar beat mosley in the second fight
and beat trinidad in their fight
just because he got robbed doesnt mean one should count those lossess

heck by doing so we would be advocating such robberies