Oscar De LeHoya: What has he ever done to warrant ATG status?

[Mr. Fantastic]

In terms of exposure maybe but I can't say that was one of Mayweather's most impressive victory's based on when it happened. Delahoya had already been beaten too many times at that point.

Some of the greats have more than 10 loses, even against guys who aren't even HOFs.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Actually Vargas should not have lost to a guy that spent most of his career at 135,147, and had never been impressive at 154. Vargas made his mark at 154. That was his division. Of course Vargas was still a force but not even close to what he was pre Trinidad.

Then why does it count as a big victory for Winky against Mosley at the weight??

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[IMDAZED]

But yet he became a World Champion at the weight? lol This is a HOF fighter we are talking about facing Vargas. A boxer WITH POWER. Jesus!!

And if it wasn't for that the fight would of went the 12th. Maybe even with Vargas winning. That a ruined fighter??

If it wasn't for what? The fact that Vargas was getting tagged with right hands over and over?

Let's stick to the topic.

Vargas was ruined by Tito. He was nearly stopped in his next fight by a past his prime fighter. Then stunned and hurt in the fight after that.

Remember when Oscar used to say he'd never fight Vargas? Because Vargas had disrespected him? Then he gave old a** Chavez a rematch because...he disrespected him? Then after Tito KO'd Vargas and then other guys beat him up Oscar wanted to fight him all of a sudden? Please.

[Toney Loc]

But yet he became a World Champion at the weight? lol This is a HOF fighter we are talking about facing Vargas. A boxer WITH POWER. Jesus!!

And if it wasn't for that the fight would of went the 12th. Maybe even with Vargas winning. That a ruined fighter??

Even if Vargas wasn't ruined, it's still Oscar's best win, which is pathetic for a so called ATG fighter.

[Calilloyd]

Some of the greats have more than 10 loses, even against guys who aren't even HOFs.

True but Oscar was past his best at that point. I would never try to deny that.

[Mr. Fantastic]

If it wasn't for what? The fact that Vargas was getting tagged with right hands over and over?

Let's stick to the topic.

Vargas was ruined by Tito. He was nearly stopped in his next fight by a past his prime fighter. Then stunned and hurt in the fight after that.

Remember when Oscar used to say he'd never fight Vargas? Because Vargas had disrespected him? Then he gave old a** Chavez a rematch because...he disrespected him? Then after Tito KO'd Vargas and then other guys beat him up Oscar wanted to fight him all of a sudden? Please.

You haven't proven **** about Vargas being ruined by Tito. Ruined fighters don't do what Vargas did.

Oscar would of beaten Vargas at any point in his career. Even if it were to of been before Tito.

[IMDAZED]

You haven't proven **** about Vargas being ruined by Tito. Ruined fighters don't do what Vargas did.

Oscar would of beaten Vargas at any point in his career. Even if it were to of been before Tito.

Ruined fighters dont beat Castillejo??? WTF? GTFOH, man. That's the best you got??

[Calilloyd]

Then why does it count as a big victory for Winky against Mosley at the weight??

I think because of Mosleys name more than anything else. Mosley has never proven that he could be a force at that weight other than beating Vargas and Mayorga. That's not enough for me. Vargas was done and Mosley struggled with Mayorga. He can still punch at that weight though. I'll give him that. But he doesn't look as fluid or quick at 154.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

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What the hell does this thread have to do with Floyd?