Oscar De LeHoya: What has he ever done to warrant ATG status?

[IMDAZED]

How many boxers actually took the risks he took??

Like fighting an undefeated Fernando Vargas?

Floyd Mayweather in his prime weight?

Having Manny Pacquiao climb up two divisions?

Turning down a rematch against Tito for Derrell Coley?

Just stop, man. You boxrec heroes see a bunch of big names on a resume and get hard. More important than who is when. You didn't even have to be following the sport back then to know his MO. Just see his recent history (Hopkins down to 156; Floyd up to 154; Manny up to 147). If he had beat up Pacquiao, 10 years from now some clown like you would look at boxrec and hype it up.

[Southpawkiller]

Alot of people on this site seem to jump on the newest bandwagon going and the amount of threads I have seen discrediting Oscar have been outrageous. And i am not a huge Oscar fan, I was rooting for Floyd but you have to respect his achievements. No fighter in recent history has consistantly fought the level of competition he has.

All his losses are to top notch opponents, and 3 of them are highly controversial...Mosley twice(oscar won the 2nd and mosley could have been on the juice for both) and Trinidad he beat.

Only real losses are to Bhop, Floyd and Manny.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Mosley isn't a HOF'er for what he's done at 154. Try to be logical.

So now you get HOF status for what you've done at one or two weights?? I thought it was based on CAREER?? Besides his only loss was to Winky at the weight.

Try to stick to the topic. Yes, Vargas won a paper title versus a paper champ. Guess he was still Vargas! Even though he had been nearly KO'ed by a washed up Wilfredo Rivera!

He didn't get KOed though. Again, don't try to come up with this bull**** of sticking to topic when it doesn't fit your agenda.

He's a HOF'er, we know. But ATG? To casual fans and you maybe. It's Friday, I'm off to the bar.

ATG no doubt. Sorry. The facts are there. 6 divisions 10 time world champion. Not just anyone can do that. That's why there is only one other person witht he same accomplishment.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Alot of people on this site seem to jump on the newest bandwagon going and the amount of threads I have seen discrediting Oscar have been outrageous. And i am not a huge Oscar fan, I was rooting for Floyd but you have to respect his achievements. No fighter in recent history has consistantly fought the level of competition he has.

All his losses are to top notch opponents, and 3 of them are highly controversial...Mosley twice(oscar won the 2nd and mosley could have been on the juice for both) and Trinidad he beat.

Only real losses are to Bhop, Floyd and Manny.

You dont get credit for just "fighting" great fighters. You have to beat them.

Ask Zab Judah.

[edgarg]

Whitaker - OLD

Vargas - SHOT

Chavez - OLD

Hernandez - Came up a weight to fight Oscar. No tuneup. Nose broken badly in sparring by Shane Mosley prior to fighting Oscar.

Gonzalez - Legit win over an average fighter.

Carr - Legit win over an average fighter. Oscar was down on the scorecard at the time of KO.

Quartey - Oscar's most controversial win to date.

Trinidad had badly beaten Carr when he was a 60-0 unbeaten fighter, BEFORE he fought Oscar.....

[Mr. Fantastic]

Like fighting an undefeated Fernando Vargas?

Because he was fighting Shane Mosley and Felix Trinidad duh.

Floyd Mayweather in his prime weight?

Prime weight?? Really? lol

Having Manny Pacquiao climb up two divisions?

Where is Manny fighting now???

Turning down a rematch against Tito for Derrell Coley?

Seriously?? You're that dumb?? Tito wanted more money.

Just stop, man. You boxrec heroes see a bunch of big names on a resume and get hard. More important than who is when. You didn't even have to be following the sport back then to know his MO. Just see his recent history (Hopkins down to 156; Floyd up to 154; Manny up to 147). If he had beat up Pacquiao, 10 years from now some clown like you would look at boxrec and hype it up.

I hardly use boxrec. Only time I really use it is when I look up fighters from the old days.

[Mr. Fantastic]

You dont get credit for just "fighting" great fighters. You have to beat them.

Ask Zab Judah.

Then Roy shouldn't be great cause he lost to Tarver, Johnson, Green, Calzaghe, Griffin??

Hopkins shouldn't be great cause he lost to Mitchell?? Calzaghe?? Taylor??

What about Pacquiao losing to Torrecampo and that other dude??

Seriously lol.

[Southpawkiller]

No ceilings if you cant see that boxing is a dirty business with corrupt bad judging then there is no point debating with you. True boxing fans know oscar beat Trinidad, and should have gotten one decision off mosley(possibly on steroids). He lost to two ATG in hopkins and Floyd genuinely, no harm there.

He was 35 and severly dehydrated losing to Manny at a weight he had not compaigned at for 7 years or so. And Manny is considered an ATG. Ali and robinson all have losses. And before someone jumps in im not saying oscar is a top 10 ATg like those guys but he is was a great fighter imo and will go down in history as a top 100 aTg no doubt in my mind

[Iceta Lives]

How many boxers actually took the risks he took??

There are a lot of guys Oscar ducked too. Forrest, Winky, Tszyu, Sergio Martinez, Cotto, and Margarito, and even Paul Williams with the latter group being more excusable since De La Hoya was toward the end of his career. But don't make him out to be this take on all comers warrior because he was not. He was so much under the spotlight that he had to fight the best in a lot of cases.

Also, every fighter to move up in weight besides Gatti to challenge De La Hoya after Oscar established himself at 147 and higher beat him. HOF yes. ATG no.

[Mr. Fantastic]

There are a lot of guys Oscar ducked too. Forrest, Winky, Tszyu, Sergio Martinez, Cotto, and Margarito, and even Paul Williams with the latter group being more excusable since De La Hoya was toward the end of his career. But don't make him out to be this take on all comers warrior because he was not. He was so much under the spotlight that he had to fight the best in a lot of cases.

Also, every fighter to move up in weight besides Gatti to challenge De La Hoya after Oscar established himself at 147 and higher beat him. HOF yes. ATG no.

Forrest LOST to Mayorga. Winky....mmmm, hard one but I can't say yes or no.
Zoo lost to Phillips. I remember they were going to fight, all Zoo had to do was win.
Martinez?? Really?? lol
Cotto?? How?
Margarito....yea.