Pac vs nobody=700k/ May vs Nobody=1mil... Enough said

[CrackYourJaw]

When JMM drank his piss it made him a house hold name

lulz.

[War Dinamita]

Well yeah, it takes a while to become a huge star.

Duh. They're comparing Floyd's old buys against people who didn't have a large fan base to Manny's fights.

How is it fair to compare his 3 fights when we know Mexicans make up the biggest fan base? Floyd didn't have the luxury to fight 3 of the top Mexican fighters.

MAB and EK were stars back in the day. Baldomir? Who?

[CottoOverrated1]

Marquez was a nobody. Face it. He was a guy that gave Pac a rough time...so? If you don't win you're a nobody. With that being said, Floyd is the bigger draw.

marquez is a huge draw with mexicans. He is only their number superstar since beating barrera. Besides pac-marquez 2 did 500K buys. Its like the biggest ppv event ever below lightweight. Its not like your going to see a 130 lb or lower weight class fight sell a million. You just got pwned.

[CrackYourJaw]

Duh. They're comparing Floyd's old buys against people who didn't have a large fan base to Manny's fights.

How is it fair to compare his 3 fights when we know Mexicans make up the biggest fan base? Floyd didn't have the luxury to fight 3 of the top Mexican fighters.

MAB and EK were stars back in the day. Baldomir? Who?

Well, yeah.

Didn't even read what you guys were arguing about really.

LOL.

[War Dinamita]

Yes but Floyd is American?

We are talking about PPV numbers in America?

Isn't that enough of an advantage?

Pac is the best selling PPV star not born or living in the US.

Pac Hatton 850k
Pac Cotto - 1.25 Mil (Slightly higher price)
Pac Clottey 700k

Not bad for someone who wasn't born or lives in the US

My point is he sold more than Floyd because he fought Mexicans and Floyd fought guys who weren't draws.

Floyd would have sold more than Manny if he fought 3 of the top Mexican fighters.

[PensionKiller]

My point is he sold more than Floyd because he fought Mexicans and Floyd fought guys who weren't draws.

Floyd would have sold more than Manny if he fought 3 of the top Mexican fighters.

Manny would have sold more if Hatton was undefeated.

Manny would have sold more against JMM now.

Manny would have sold more VS Mosely.

Manny would have sold more with Oscar if the Mayweather fight with him didn't actually put casual fans off boxing and there wasn't a recession.

Heck Manny would have sold more VS ...

My point is, Manny would have sold more if he was American.

Tell me I am not talking ****, tell me the 3 non mexicans actually were quite abit? Tell me that I am damn good.

[Bogler]

Mexican, Mexican, and Mexican.

How much did Manny sell without Mexicans?

Are you telling me that Floyd could not do the same against 3 of the most popular Mexican fighters in their era?

SHOW ME PROOF MANNY SOLD WITHOUT MEXICANS!

you're just owning yourself by contradiction.

you're saying manny wasnt the draw in his mexican fights so obviously you're implying these mexicans fighters were the draw. for example pac-jmm2 was over 400k, so to you its jmm who's the bigger draw.

but otoh, you saying jmm wasn't a big factor in the floyd fight. make up your cherrypicking mind dude. lol

[War Dinamita]

Not true Margarito was not active in boxing he had his license revoked at the time. He was actually looked as disagrace not popular in a good way.

I mentioned Alvarez but lets be honest he was not popular by US Mexicans. Only in Mexico. Nobody in the U.S have really seen a fight of Alvarez

When JMM drank his piss it made him a house hold name, non boxing shows were talking about that ****. When he did that he became the most popular Mexican. Plus people knew his as the one who gave Pac hell...

Pac didn't do good numbers without Mexicans. Maybe that is because a lot of Mexicans by PPVs to watch their countrymen fight.

That is why Pac-JMM did 400k without a 24/7, and also considering they were small guys the casual fans don't care about the lower weights. Matter of fact what is the highest PPV numbers at 135 and below?

Pac-Morales all three fights put together did a mili buys. That is an average of over 300k. Again this is before Oscar. And, against a Morales who everybody felt was washed up. But, it proves my point that you put a top Mexican fighter in there and people will watch and the Mexicans fans will pay to watch. Again what is the record for PPV numbers at 135 and below?

Margacheato was more popular than JMM when he was active in boxing. Margacheato was the #1 Mexican fighter before he was caught cheating. A lot of Mexican fans won't be his fan anymore, but they're still going to watch his fights.

Canelo is a star in Mexico and he's more popular than JMM.

JMM is not a household name. Floyd, DLH, Manny, etc. are household names.

You're pretty much agreeing with my argument that Manny sold more than Floyd because of his fights against Mexican fighters. Mexican fighters helped Manny become a star. Floyd did good numbers without Mexicans and Manny sold 100K more than him fighting 3 of the top Mexicans. How is it fair for people to compare his buys to Manny's Mexican fights?

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

This thread is beyond ******. JMM is not a star or household name.

[War Dinamita]

you're just owning yourself by contradiction.

you're saying manny wasnt the draw in his mexican fights so obviously you're implying these mexicans fighters were the draw. for example pac-jmm2 was over 400k, so to you its jmm who's the bigger draw.

but otoh, you saying jmm wasn't a big factor in the floyd fight. make up your cherrypicking mind dude. lol

Reading comprehension?

I'm saying Manny sold more than Floyd because he fought 3 of the top Mexican fighters. Floyd didn't have the luxury of fighting 3 of the top Mexican fighters who have the largest fan base.

You're an idiot of you think those fights sold more than Floyd's fights because of Manny. Mexicans will always support their fighters.

Floyd was already a star when he fought JMM. He was the main draw and carried the fight.