Pac vs nobody=700k/ May vs Nobody=1mil... Enough said

[War Dinamita]

Bro answer my question bro.

Go on bro?

You asked me PPV numbers with Pac without mexicans bro. I gave it. That's why bro.

ANyway bro, so who is more likely to sell in the US?

A philipnio or an American?

As for number.

Before Oscar.

After Oscar.

Are you this damn slow, or are you this ******?

We are talking about their numbers before they became stars.

I asked for Pac's numbers when he wasn't a superstar and compare those numbers to Floyd's numbers before he became a star.

Post Pac's numbers before he became a superstar without fighting Mexicans.

[PensionKiller]

Pac has a whole country behind him and has 3 millions pinoys who support him in the US.

Oh so you wanna count a country now?

Like 99% of the Philipines watches Pacquaio. Crime even almsot stops.

So that's like 90 million.

Damn Pac is a bigger star than Oscar, Tyson, Floyd right?

Oh gosh bro, you don't even wanna talk about the country behind him.

Wait a minute, Floyd fights in his own country, the bronze Medalist for the US in the Olympics.

[Danny Gunz]

ppv numbers dont matter too us, dont worry about them

[jrosales13]

Margacheato was more popular than JMM when he was active in boxing. Margacheato was the #1 Mexican fighter before he was caught cheating. A lot of Mexican fans won't be his fan anymore, but they're still going to watch his fights.

Canelo is a star in Mexico and he's more popular than JMM.

JMM is not a household name. Floyd, DLH, Manny, etc. are household names.

You're pretty much agreeing with my argument that Manny sold more than Floyd because of his fights against Mexican fighters. Mexican fighters helped Manny become a star. Floyd did good numbers without Mexicans and Manny sold 100K more than him fighting 3 of the top Mexicans. How is it fair for people to compare his buys to Manny's Mexican fights?

When Floyd signed to fight JMM, Margarito was not active, had his licensed revoked and JMM was coming off a FOTY win. Margarito was not popular anymore he was a disgraced why is this even a debate?

Canelo is a star in Mexico I agree, I mentioned that already. But, he was not a star to Mexican/American fans. He was just not. Nobody in the U.S saw the man fight. But, they did see JMM since he had headline a PPV before and been the main HBO plenty of times. JMM was more popular by the Mexican fans in the US then Alvarez was/is.

JMM became a household name when he drank his own piss. Do you not remember how many people were talking about that shi? Even non boxing fans were talking about it? That got played everywhere?

Agree the Mexican fans but PPVs to watch there countryman. That is why is ludacris to try and say JMM is a nobody like the TS did. Especially when you think that you have the most populas fighter in the US at the time fighting at a Mexican holiday.

And, again Pac did not fight them at 147 at a weight-class that has prestige, a weight-class has history, WW and up is popular by the casual fans. 130 is not. That is why I asked you show me PPV numbers that fighters did below 135?

You saying is not fair to compare Manny fights against Mexicans to Floyd. But, lets not forget that Floyd had his chance to fight a Mexican in a PPV at WW and he avoided it. But, that is not here nor there. Anyways I would counter your argument and say is not fair to compare WW PPV numbers to SFW PPV numbers.

If you don't believe me then please just look at the PPV numbers below 135 and compare it to PPV numbers above 135.

Now don't take this as me saying Pac is the bigger PPV draw. Because, I don't think he is. Not just yet. But, I think he is damn near close to Floyd. He is catching up quick. However, I do think Pac is bigger live gate draw. And, I don't even think that is close.

[El Jesus]

In a clear sign that I have been living in the sport and this website too much, last night I had a dream that Floyd/Mosley sold 2.2 million PPV's and everyone on here was fighting about it.

Man I need to start dreaming better.

I had similar dreams before. but more along the lines of 2005, like tyson knocking out wladimir and fans on here whining and crying.

or de la hoya knocking out mayweather and everyone confirming mayweather was a "fruad"


you arent alone. it happens.

[fabie]

Floyd fought one of the biggest Mexican fighters on Mexican Independence Day.

Lets not get ******.

Thank you. Any boxing fan should know that MARQUEZ is one of the legends....

I am a fan of all Pacquiao, Mayweather and Marquez and to pull ****** questions like these are simply....unnerving sometimes.

[PensionKiller]

Are you this damn slow, or are you this ******?

We are talking about their numbers before they became stars.

I asked for Pac's numbers when he wasn't a superstar and compare those numbers to Floyd's numbers before he became a star.

Post Pac's numbers before he became a superstar without fighting Mexicans.

So you want to get the PPV numbers for a fighter who didn;t speak any English, who wasn't born in the country, who basically became a little bit known to boxing fans after Barerra and was not known at all before that fight?

OK well I think you got me on this. You clearly win.

But answer me this.

Who is likely to sell more in the US.

Mayweather, an american, or Pacquaio, an philipino?

Just give me an answer bro. Please bro

[Bogler]

Reading comprehension?

I'm saying Manny sold more than Floyd because he fought 3 of the top Mexican fighters. Floyd didn't have the luxury of fighting 3 of the top Mexican fighters who have the largest fan base.

You're an idiot of you think those fights sold more than Floyd's fights because of Manny. Mexicans will always support their fighters.

Floyd was already a star when he fought JMM. He was the main draw and carried the fight.

when you say manny sold more than floyd because of the mexicans, you're saying these mexicans were the ppvstars back then. ok lets assume that. so pac-jmm2 was the record holder ppv buys for lower weight classes so obviously you're implying jmm is a huge draw. but then you're discrediting jmm's draw in his fight w/ floyd? really, how dumb can *****s get?

[fabie]

Both guys are draws, who cares...The End

Exactly. The Sport of BOXING is what matters to me btw....

[Alibata]

So it should be right because Floyd said it?...Okay then Floyd also said that Shane Mosley is not a PPV Attraction...So does that mean Floyd is a huge draw if Mayweather vs Mosley does more buys than Mayweather vs Marquez did? Oh I guess your just picking and choosing...Never mind.

Freddie Roach said Cotto is a bigger draw than Mosley, so if Mayweather-Mosley does more than Pacquiao vs Cotto no further questions need to be asked in the future

A ***** going against the Gospel of Floyd???!!!!! WTF....You believed Floyd when he said Manny was on A-side meth... You Believe Floyd when he says he is worth 600 mil liquid.... You believe Floyd when he says he don't duck nobody....You believe Floyd when he says he wants to "Clean up sports".....You believe all of Floyd's B.S... Why you not believing Floyd when he said that about Marquez??? Amazing!!!!! you are going with the flow, moe. You believe Floyd when it is convenient. Just like Floyd you are a bull****ter...