PAC Already has a better resume at WW

[F l i c k e r]

Clottey, Cotto>>> Baldomir.

Easy.

Nah, Cotto was catchweight.

Mosley, Judah, Baldomir, Hatton >>>>> Clottey, ODLH.

[jameshepenstall]

Cotto is damaged goods.

DLH is shot, past prime, and was weight drained.

Clottey is a B-level fighter who has no offensive game.

SSM right now > Better than anyone who Manny fought.

Do you think that Mosley now is in a higher class (at the weight) than JMM was at 130? I dont know but i think they are on a par at least.

[tesla_power]

Doesn't matter he still said it. You have undeniable truth right before your eyes but want to bring up the date. When it's not like it was 2003 when it happened.

There is a more recent one where Freddie talks about Mosley comming into the gym twice and trying to get the fight done but Freddie wanted it at 142.

It's in one of those exposed videos. I can't find it but if I got my hands on even the steroid exposed video, I could find it.

Ok man that is your belief. Like I said, the date is important to me because I believe Roach has changed his mind after Pac was able to handle Cotto. Other than that, I respect your views.

[War Dinamita]

Do you think that Mosley now is in a higher class (at the weight) than JMM was at 130? I dont know but i think they are on a par at least.

We are only talking about resumes at WW.

Of course Packy has a better overall resume than Floyd, but this is only about their resumes at WW.

[shogunn]

Nah, Cotto was catchweight.

Mosley, Judah, Baldomir, Hatton >>>>> Clottey, ODLH.

Cotto at 145 is more WW than Hatton ever was, and better than judah, baldomir. Throw in Clottey in there too.

Mosley and Floyd havent even fought yet so how does he get credit

[War Dinamita]

Clottey, Cotto>>> Baldomir.

Easy.

Old grandpa Mosley, Judah, Baldomir, Hatton > Past prime DLH, damage goods Cotto, and B-level Clottey.

[RAESAAD]

The thread isn't overall resume though. It's only WW fights.

I was trying to keep it simple that way. I didn't even mention Hatton who actually fought Floyd at WW (147) but Manny at SLW(140) BUT THOSE FIGHTS ALSO COULD HAVE A SLIGHT BIT OF RELEVENCE. mANNY DESTROYED HIM IN 2 WHEN IT TOOK fLOYD 10 TO FIND THAT CHECK HOOK AT THE PERFECT TIME.....oOPS I hit the caps button & am not going back to fix it all. I'm not trying to point anything out with it for the record lol....

[War Dinamita]

Cotto didn't really become damaged until Manny beat him. You can recover from a physical beating (like the one Margarito gave him). That was the only beating Cotto had ever had up to that point in his career. He was able to get over it quickly, especially since he could tell himself that he probably didn't really get beat fair and square after Margarito was caught cheating in his very next fight. Pacquiao's beating was worse. He beat Cotto physically and Cotto can't ease the beating his psyche took because their are no excuses like after the Margarito fight, Pacquiao beat him fair and square.

De La Hoya didn't feel he was past prime and many thought he'd win. Pacquiao didn't force him to fight at 147, it was De La Hoya who said he'd drop down from 154 to 147 while requiring Pacquiao to move up 2 weight classes from 135 to 147. De La Hoya dictated everything about this fight (just as he did when he fought Mayweather) from the weight, to the size of the gloves to the location and Manny still prevailed.

Clottey is a B-level fighter however he has displayed much more offense in the past against other opponents (like Cotto). He wasn't aggressive because he didn't want to get knocked out like Manny's other recent victims.

Shane Mosley is a great fighter and is the first true test for Mayweather since his De La Hoya fight almost three years ago.

Nope, Cotto was damaged goods after his fight with Margacheato. He quit physically and mentally in that fight. Fighters are never the same when they quit physically and mentally. Cotto was better against SSM than he was against Manny. Cotto looked scared after the 4th round. Cotto has never recover from his fight with Margacheato.

DLH was shot and past his prime. Roach said DLH killed himself to make weight and he couldn't pull the trigger anymore. DLH had no choice to come down to 147 because Manny was not coming up to 154.

I agree with you about SSM.

[Eastbay Giant]

This is a dumb ass thread. Mayweather defeats Mosley May 1st = 2x Ring Magazine WW Champ. Talk to me when Paq achieves the same.

[Biolink]

I was trying to keep it simple that way. I didn't even mention Hatton who actually fought Floyd at WW (147) but Manny at SLW(140) BUT THOSE FIGHTS ALSO COULD HAVE A SLIGHT BIT OF RELEVENCE. mANNY DESTROYED HIM IN 2 WHEN IT TOOK fLOYD 10 TO FIND THAT CHECK HOOK AT THE PERFECT TIME.....oOPS I hit the caps button & am not going back to fix it all. I'm not trying to point anything out with it for the record lol....

Obviously a guy who goes in the ring to seek and destroy is going to finish someone faster than a counter-puncher who would prefer the fight to come to him.

Also if you watched that fight closely, that wasn't not the first time Hatton was hit by that check left hook. It was not an accident that he ended up getting knocked out as a result of that punch.

In the end I don't think that fight will have much relevance to how Pacquiao and Mayweather fight each other. That fight really just proves that styles make fights.