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  • Mr. Anonymous
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    #71
    Originally posted by California Love
    Cotto is damaged goods.

    DLH is shot, past prime, and was weight drained.

    Clottey is a B-level fighter who has no offensive game.

    SSM right now > Better than anyone who Manny fought.
    hence the reason for my Sig^

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    • Clyde Barrow
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      #72
      Originally posted by MrWestGrand
      This is a dumb ass thread. Mayweather defeats Mosley May 1st = 2x Ring Magazine WW Champ. Talk to me when Paq achieves the same.


      Shane-PBF will not crown a lineal champion. Pac is ranked #1 by Ring presently, though I believe Mosley should be.

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      • War Dinamita
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        #73
        Originally posted by Lil' bro
        hence the reason for my Sig^
        The truth hurts.

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        • jrosales13
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          #74
          As of right now IMO Pac has the better WW resume. However, that can change if Floyd beats Shane.

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          • Wukillabeez78
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            #75
            Originally posted by California Love
            Nope, Cotto was damaged goods after his fight with Margacheato. He quit physically and mentally in that fight. Fighters are never the same when they quit physically and mentally. Cotto was better against SSM than he was against Manny. Cotto looked scared after the 4th round. Cotto has never recover from his fight with Margacheato.

            DLH was shot and past his prime. Roach said DLH killed himself to make weight and he couldn't pull the trigger anymore. DLH had no choice to come down to 147 because Manny was not coming up to 154.

            I agree with you about SSM.
            Cotto wasn't beat mentally by Margarito. He quit because he couldn't continue physically. Even if he was a little down mentally after the fight he was able to recover (self-admittedly so in interviews he's given regarding the Margarito fight) because Margarito was caught trying to cheat in his next fight. Cotto was able to heal his psyche by telling himself (and from others in his camp and fans around the world telling him) that Margarito was probably cheating against him during that loss. Cotto wasn't scared against Manny because of anything lingering from the Margarito loss. He became tentative because by the 4th round he'd already hit Manny with his best shots and Manny was still coming forward not budging a bit. That's why the Manny loss was far worse. Cotto had no excuse to fall back on after the Pacquiao fight like he eventually did after Margarito was caught cheating. Athletes and people in general always look for an excuse as to why they lost or failed at something. This is called a coping mechanism. It's not a bad thing because if you can justify a loss (like Cotto was eventually able to do after Margarito was later caught attempting to cheat) it means that you don't feel you actually lost and are able to recover and put it behind you quicker.

            De La Hoya wasn't shot but he was past his prime when he fought Pacquiao (just like Mosley isn't shot but is past his prime entering this fight vs Mayweather). DLH was the one who made Manny come up 2 weight classes while he only went down one. Manny had to meet DLH's conditions to the fight just like Mayweather had to when he fought DLH. DLH being weight-drained was his fault, not Mannys. Manny beat the fighter in front of him and DLH praised his effort after the fight.

            Let's hope Mosley can summon one last great effort (he'll need it) against Mayweather on May 1st. Then we can hope the winner fights Pacquiao later this year...

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            • GTL
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              #76
              Originally posted by RAESAAD
              Than Floyd.....LMAO! Oscar, Cotto & Clottey already? Floyd wouldn't touch fights with Cotto or Clottey in fear that they could possibly beat him. I personally don't think either fighter would but I'm just saying.....Floyd is a punk. He's finally fighting Mosley which I'll give him credit for but Mosley is getting older & it'd wouldn't surprise me if unfortunately this is the fight he begins to show it in.....I hope to god not though. He can, if in top form & fired up give Floyd the fight of his life and also win.....By KO. Mosley has power so if he can catch Floyd clean & wobble him & move in for the kill.....It wouldn't shock me to see Floyd crumble.....I'd love to see it in fact.

              All that said I'd like to see Floyd win simply because I really wanna see him fight Pac.....
              where have u been bro.. u havent posted in a while

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              • infamous larryx
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                #77
                lol...here we go

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                • pasawayako
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by California Love
                  Cotto is damaged goods.

                  DLH is shot, past prime, and was weight drained.

                  Clottey is a B-level fighter who has no offensive game.

                  SSM right now > Better than anyone who Manny fought.
                  clottey that pac fought destroyed the present mosley. Mosley was just too old and past of prime now.

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                  • markfrombrookly
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                    #79
                    Uhh Oscar fought at 147 and hadnt fought 8 years at that weight and was OBVIOUSLY weight drained. Pac didnt fight Cotto at 147 he fought him at a catch weight of 145. And Clottey is probably the 5th best welterweight. Shane is the #1 welterweight.

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                    • nujabes77
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Lil' bro
                      hence the reason for my Sig^
                      lolz @ the sig? who ever came up with that can only be a genius

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