What do you think Ali would do against a klitschko?

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  • Jim Jeffries
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    #251
    Originally posted by Calilloyd
    Jerry Quarry was a top fighter. And my reference was to Ali being able to take punches at an older age. Something Roy Jones has not shown the same ability to do. Again ,context is foreign to you. And Shavers is one of the hardest punching heavyweights in history. Don't just rely on Boxrec for your information. You've become a one trick pony.
    Shavers was a clubfighter, nothing more.

    His power is overrated to make Holmes' chin not seem like glass.

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      #252
      Originally posted by AKATheMack
      I give Frazier very little chance against either Klitschko. Wlad jabs him to death all night and ties him up on the inside. I think Vitali would just overpower him. The left hook would also lose a lot of steam having to throw it 9in above his head.
      Frazier would break him down in the body with the left hook, and then he will go up stairs. And, is easy to use the jab if you your opponent is just standing in front of you straight up. Joe Frazer who is also short but will bend his knees to become even shorter and use great heam movement with nice foot work would get inside that jab. And, then take the body away the head would follow.

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      • AKATheMack
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        #253
        Originally posted by street bully
        Fighters first ballot HOFers the Klitskos have beat please. I only see one they fought in Lewis and it resulted in a TKO loss, a past prime Lewis if I may add. Thia is like saying Pavlik beats Sugar Ray.
        Lack of competition is a poor way to decide a head to head matchup. It'd be more effective to compare fighting styles and what tools each has to trouble the other.

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          #254
          Originally posted by £Hank$Moody€
          Shavers was a clubfighter, nothing more.

          His power is overrated to make Holmes' chin not seem like glass.
          Oh you must be out your damn mind...

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            #255
            Originally posted by Roy O'Bannon
            You're a silly little monkey aren't you?

            Since when did Chambers have a glass jaw. Part of the allure of this fight was his solid chin and good defense.

            And since when pray tell, did Chambers even come close to weighing 185.

            He worked his ass off just to get down to 210.

            Keep trying kid.
            yea exactly, he was soft as hell even for 210.

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            • Calilloyd
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              #256
              Originally posted by £Hank$Moody€
              Yikes, try reading my post, or any of them for that matter.

              Were they fighting Russians? Cubans? Africans?



              Originally posted by £Hank$Moody€
              Americans called themselves world champs for almost a century, without fighting hardly anyone outside of their country.
              Now that they have worldwide competition, they're calling it garbage.


              Cherry picking a few foreigners does not world competition make.
              I read your post very well. try to remember what you post. You never mentioned any specific countries. You said "hardly anyone outside their country. At first I thought it was oversight. Now I realize you're just not very smart. And please name all of the fighters from these countries that Ali or Louis ducked since you think they "cherry picked foreigners"? Who should they have fought from Europe or Cuba instead of these so called "cherry picked" fighters? I won't hold my breath waiting for an answer.
              Last edited by Calilloyd; 03-21-2010, 12:17 PM.

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                #257
                Originally posted by £Hank$Moody€
                I can't tell whether you're being sarcastic. But surely you've heard of Felix Savon?
                He was a great armature, but the ams are totally different from the pros especially since the 90s came around and the rules were changed. Winning olypic and international amateur titles is great while you are young, but the luster wears off when you have should turned pro years ago and beat on children.

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                  #258
                  Originally posted by Roy O'Bannon
                  Louis got beat by Schmelling. And Ali almost got ktfo by Cooper.

                  Louis was too damn small to **** w/ the Klitschko's. He weighed like 190. And Ali is just way overrated on here.
                  Look at Joe Louis vs Primo Carnera who was 6'6 260lbs. See how a small Joe Louis does against hiim.

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                    #259
                    Originally posted by S A M U R A I
                    Ali would toy with ALL OF them.
                    Fixed. I really think he is the greatest...and can beat anyone. And not just beat but dominate them.

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                    • AKATheMack
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                      #260
                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      Frazier would break him down in the body with the left hook, and then he will go up stairs. And, is easy to use the jab if you your opponent is just standing in front of you straight up. Joe Frazer who is also short but will bend his knees to become even shorter and use great heam movement with nice foot work would get inside that jab. And, then take the body away the head would follow.
                      Lets say Frazier does slip the jab that easily, after that he lands one body punch and Wlad ties him up and lays on him. I am not a fan of the holding that Wlad does, but its very effective. Also if Frazier did slip the jab Wlad would just jump back leaving himself out of range for Joe. People severely underestimate how effective Wlads jab and grab actually is. Its not always pretty, but its hard to beat.

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