What do you think Ali would do against a klitschko?

[BoxingFanFirst]

I already answered your post, which is the exact same thing as what you wrote before.






You and Caliloyd take your 'ali is an invinsible god' b.s. somewhere else.

No you didnt answer anything. You listed off a bunch of fighters. Explain each of their resumes. Explain vlad getting kod by 3 bums. Explain his best win... Then compare it to Alis and come back at me.

Then you go on to say cooper knocked him down. Who won that fight?? Ali was never stopped against 3 of the top ten hardest hitters in the history of the HW division.

Neither klit compares to Ali. Your delusional.

[AKATheMack]

No you didnt answer anything. You listed off a bunch of fighters. Explain each of their resumes. Explain vlad getting kod by 3 bums. Explain his best win... Then compare it to Alis and come back at me.

3 bums with no stylistic similarities to Ali 2 of which were much bigger punchers than Ali. Again, saying Wlad loses because of resume is equally as ignorant. We are not discussing who is the Greater fighter we're discussing who is the better fighter in a head to head matchup.

[BoxingFanFirst]

3 bums with no stylistic similarities to Ali 2 of which were much bigger punchers than Ali. Again, saying Wlad loses because of resume is equally as ignorant. We are not discussing who is the Greater fighter we're discussing who is the better fighter in a head to head matchup.

And what better way to do that then compare resumes.

Frank Bruno, Mike Tyson, Buster Douglas, HolyField, Lewis, Bowe would have all gave the klit sisters fits, and probably won let alone Ali..

Who have they beat to give this assumption that they are any good at all. Everyone I listed above would be there best win. This is just ****in nuts to me that I have to defend this.. The only people in the world who consider them greats are germans and russians.

[AKATheMack]

And what better way to do that then compare resumes.

Frank Bruno, Mike Tyson, Buster Douglas, HolyField, Lewis, Bowe would have all gave the klit sisters fits, and probably won let alone Ali..

Who have they beat to give this assumption that they are any good at all. The oly people in the world who consider them greats are germans and russians.

One more time, who they have beat has absolutely nothing to do with how they would perform in a head to head matchup. Things that should be taken into consideration speed,power,reach,height,weight, the way they fight, the punches the throw, so unless Ali has beaten a 6'6" 245lb fighter with a great jab or Wlad has been outboxed by a 6'3" 215lb masterful boxer their resumes means little more than ****. The reasons I see Wlad giving Ali problems great jab and huge size advantage, if you could give me a way either of those points are wrong Im willing to listen. If Ali beats Wlad because he beat Frazier then your input is useless. And those fighters listed would all give Ali problems also with possibly the exception of Bruno, so that doesn't mean much either especially since they also are not similar to Ali in technique.

[BoxingFanFirst]

One more time, who they have beat has absolutely nothing to do with how they would perform in a head to head matchup. Things that should be taken into consideration speed,power,reach,height,weight, the way they fight, the punches the throw, so unless Ali has beaten a 6'6" 245lb fighter with a great jab or Wlad has been outboxed by a 6'3" 215lb masterful boxer their resumes means little more than ****. The reasons I see Wlad giving Ali problems great jab and huge size advantage, if you could give me a way either of those points are wrong Im willing to listen. If Ali beats Wlad because he beat Frazier then your input is useless. And those fighters listed would all give Ali problems also with possibly the exception of Bruno, so that doesn't mean much either especially since they also are not similar to Ali in technique.

I cant believe you won't take into consideration resumes... Im not going to read your whole post, because it's a waste of time. Neither klit has beaten anyone to make me think they could stand in there with any top ten HW.

You can't compare there size speed, and power when they havent beaten anyone notable. Not to mention both klits are have half the speed of Ali.

[AKATheMack]

I cant believe you won't take into consideration resumes... Im not going to read your whole post, because it's a waste of time. Neither klit has beaten anyone to make me think they could stand in there with any top ten HW.

You can't compare there size speed, and power when they havent beaten anyone notable. Not to mention both klits are have half the speed of Ali.

You come across as ignorant if resume is how you predict a head to head matchup. If Im betting on a fight I would only let resume influence my bet if they had fought similar style matchups. You would lose lots of money because your ability to analyze a fight is based solely on resumes. Its a ridiculous way to judge the outcome of a fight and very ineffective. Wlad had a much better resume than Corrie Sanders when they fought, so should we go ahead and reverse the outcome since resume is what really matters not fighting style.

[BoxingFanFirst]

You come across as ignorant if resume is how you predict a head to head matchup. If Im betting on a fight I would only let resume influence my bet if they had fought similar style matchups. You would lose lots of money because your ability to analyze a fight is based solely on resumes. Its a ridiculous way to judge the outcome of a fight and very ineffective. Wlad had a much better resume than Corrie Sanders when they fought, so should we go ahead and reverse the outcome since resume is what really matters not fighting style.

Again... The klits have beaten nobody... They arent even comparable to Ali. The have zero notable wins. As far as im concerned there very one-dimensional fighters dominating a weak era.

You cannot!!!!!!!!1 and I repeat cannot compare matchups if one of the fighter is a nobody. Klits are nobodies, because they have beaten purely nobodies. Theres not much more I can say, because you seem to think the klits are comparable in skill to some of the ATG's. I dont, so theres a big conflict there.

Name me someone on there resume that could even compete with any top 10 ATG. Actually name me one win on there resume who could compete with a top 20 HW of all time.

[AKATheMack]

Again... The klits have beaten nobody... They arent even comparable to Ali. The have zero notable wins. As far as im concerned there very one-dimensional fighters dominating a weak era.

You cannot!!!!!!!!1 and I repeat cannot compare matchups if one of the fighter is a nobody. Klits are nobodies, because they have beaten purely nobodies. Theres not much more I can say, because you seem to think the klits are comparable in skill to some of the ATG's. I dont, so theres a big conflict there.

Name me someone on there resume that could even compete with any top 10 ATG. Actually name me one win on there resume who could compete with a top 20 HW of all time.

Ali has a better resume, the Klits havent beaten anyone I get it. No need to say the exact same thing over and over while offering no analysis of a head to head matchup.Since you obviously have no analytical skills, peace.

[Jim Jeffries]

I read your post very well. try to remember what you post. You never mentioned any specific countries. You said "hardly anyone outside their country. At first I thought it was oversight. Now I realize you're just not very smart. And please name all of the fighters from these countries that Ali or Louis ducked since you think they "cherry picked foreigners"? Who should they have fought from Europe or Cuba instead of these so called "cherry picked" fighters? I won't hold my breath waiting for an answer.

Russians have only been able to fight professionally for the past 20 years.

Given that they dominated today, it's not a huge leap of logic that they might've been competitive in prior eras, no? Also, without the lure of money in the pros, not as many fought in the AMs as well. Cuba still isn't allowed to fight pro, the ones that do have to defect. Fighters from Africa didn't have the opportunity to come to the US and fight as much as they could have.

For most of the first century of boxing, you basically first just had the US and then a few western europeans.

You can't seriously be trying to argue that the US has been fighting true world competition since the 1800's.


You're also pretty delusional if you think Wlad would be an easy fight for any version of Ali.

Your excuses are almost as pathetic as the "all the good HWs are playing in the NBA and NFL."

[Calilloyd]

Russians have only been able to fight professionally for the past 20 years.

Given that they dominated today, it's not a huge leap of logic that they might've been competitive in prior eras, no? Also, without the lure of money in the pros, not as many fought in the AMs as well. Cuba still isn't allowed to fight pro, the ones that do have to defect. Fighters from Africa didn't have the opportunity to come to the US and fight as much as they could have.

For most of the first century of boxing, you basically first just had the US and then a few western europeans.

You can't seriously be trying to argue that the US has been fighting true world competition since the 1800's.


You're also pretty delusional if you think Wlad would be an easy fight for any version of Ali.

What European or Cuban fighters did Ali and Joe Louis duck? You still haven't answered that question genius. Diverting the topic and making imaginary statements that I never made doesn't change that. Like I said, you're just not smart. You dug a hole for yourself with your ignorant comments and have no answers to get out. That's typical of you because you throw statements out there without any knowledge of what your talking about. The link in my signature is a perfect example. Anybody can click on that to read the thread and see for themselves. You were run out of the Jack Johnson history thread because of your ******ity and bigoted remarks.. Again I'll ask you, If Ali and Joe Louis "cherry picked" foreign opposition, who should they have fought? Can you answer that question? Didn't think so. Also, black people shining shoes is a played out sterotype.You're not even smart enough to make an original racist remark lol