What do you think Ali would do against a klitschko?

[street bully]

Shavers was a clubfighter, nothing more.

His power is overrated to make Holmes' chin not seem like glass.

Oh come on man, overrated power? Is this why the fighters he faced say he was the harder hitter they stepped in the ring with? Ali himself said he hit harder than Foreman and Liston.

[BoxingFanFirst]

The ******ity by some of these posts in here is shocking.

To even mention these bum busters in the same sentence as Ali is a ****ing disgrace and injustice to boxing.

The klits are floring guys like Arreola, and Chambers, while Ali was putting down guys like liston, frazier, foreman, and shavers.

You guys do yourself a favor, and watch Ali pre vietnam mess, and tell me any HW ever could touch him.. BTW. Wlad was ko'd by bums like Lamon Brewster, Corrie Sanders, and Ross Puritty. Ali was never stopped.

All you can judge someone off of is who they have beat in the era they were in. Ali was in the toughest HW divison in the history of boxing, and owned it for 15 years. He's not called the greatest for no reason. Study up on boxing history, and quit nuthugging your klit sister idols.

When arguably your best win is against Chris Byrd... Ouch.

Btw. Ali had one of the greatest chins ever. Hurt by cooper? So what. one example early in his career.

[street bully]

Vlad beats Eddie ****ing Chambers and all hell breaks lose. I like the Klits and say they deserve respect, but this is ******.

[Calilloyd]

Shavers was a clubfighter, nothing more.

His power is overrated to make Holmes' chin not seem like glass.

Ok lets see, Shavers power overrated and Holmes really had a glass chin? So Holmes, Ken Norton, Ron Lyle, Jimmy Young and Ali are lied about Shavers power? LOL you really are ******. Keep talking. This is fun.

[jrosales13]

Lets say Frazier does slip the jab that easily, after that he lands one body punch and Wlad ties him up and lays on him. I am not a fan of the holding that Wlad does, but its very effective. Also if Frazier did slip the jab Wlad would just jump back leaving himself out of range for Joe. People severely underestimate how effective Wlads jab and grab actually is. Its not always pretty, but its hard to beat.

Joe would catch up with him, Wlad can tie him up. But, he will eat some left hooks to the body before he ties him up everytimg. And, Frazier would put pressure on him 3 minutes of every round for 12-15 rounds. Frazier would stop him late since Wlad stamina is really not all that. Especially in a 15 round fight.

[AKATheMack]

Look at Joe Louis vs Primo Carnera who was 6'6 260lbs. See how a small Joe Louis does against hiim.

Look at Eddie Chambers vs 6'7" 250lb Dmitrienko to see how he does against big fighters.

[jrosales13]

Look at Eddie Chambers vs 6'7" 250lb Dmitrienko to see how he does against big fighters.

Eddie Chambers is never as skilled as Lous, And Dimetrienko is not Vitaly like, however look at Primo Carnera and tell me that is not Vitaly like...

[AKATheMack]

Joe would catch up with him, Wlad can tie him up. But, he will eat some left hooks to the body before he ties him up everytimg. And, Frazier would put pressure on him 3 minutes of every round for 12-15 rounds. Frazier would stop him late since Wlad stamina is really not all that. Especially in a 15 round fight.

I don't think Frazier can handle the power of either brother. I would never say Id pick either Klit over Ali, but I do see some things they do stylistically to trouble him. Frazier was a tough guy with a great left hook, but I believe most of his reputation is based off beating a post exile Ali.

[Mikhnienko]

The ******ity by some of these posts in here is shocking.

To even mention these bum busters in the same sentence as Ali is a ****ing disgrace and injustice to boxing.

The klits are floring guys like Arreola, and Chambers, while Ali was putting down guys like liston, frazier, foreman, and shavers.

You guys do yourself a favor, and watch Ali pre vietnam mess, and tell me any HW ever could touch him.. BTW. Wlad was ko'd by bums like Lamon Brewster, Corrie Sanders, and Ross Puritty. Ali was never stopped.

All you can judge someone off of is who they have beat in the era they were in. Ali was in the toughest HW divison in the history of boxing, and owned it for 15 years. He's not called the greatest for no reason. Study up on boxing history, and quit nuthugging your klit sister idols.

When arguably your best win is against Chris Byrd... Ouch.

Btw. Ali had one of the greatest chins ever. Hurt by cooper? So what. one example early in his career.

I already answered your post, which is the exact same thing as what you wrote before.

Pre-Vietnam who could compete with him?

Dempsey, Langford, Tunney, Louis, Marciano, Sharkey, Charles, Walcott, Patterson, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes, Holyfield, Bowe, Lewis, both Klitschko's, Tyson,

btw what does Cooper hurting Ali prove? Well a sub 190 Cooper in '66 and sub 190lb Jones in 63' dropping Ali in the exact time period that you're saying he was untouchable shows that any of the above named guys could have done far worse with their punching power alone.

lol right.

Do i think that all of the above named at their best could compete and possibly beat Ali at his best, yes. Top HW's from any era are comparable.

You're the one calling people ****** and acting as if Ali is on another planet and the thought of any other mortal possibly being able to compete is some absurd notion.

Anyone looking at our exchanges can see who the dumbass is.

You and Caliloyd take your 'ali is an invinsible god' b.s. somewhere else.

[AKATheMack]

Eddie Chambers is never as skilled as Lous, And Dimetrienko is not Vitaly like, however look at Primo Carnera and tell me that is not Vitaly like...

I can see some stylistic similarities, but his workrate doesnt seem to be up to par, neither do his chin or his power. Carneras credibility as an opponent also has to come into question.